[governance] Yes! Hands off the Internet!

[michael gurstein]

Hi Michael,

My point in including Google in the "rogues gallery" is simply to highlight
the central role that Google was playing in the recent Internet
Freedom/Hands off the Internet campaign... My point conerning Facebook is
linked to the fact that FB because of its very size and scope (market
dominance?) is taking on (for some at least) a quasi official status (the
official election results in Ghana were first announced on FB for example).

But overall my intention was to point to the hypocrisy of the overwhelming
campaigns from certain governments and certain elements of the private
sector, civil society, and the technical community concerning "hands off the
Internet" when it comes from certain directions (such as the governments of
China or Russia) while the same folks choose to ignore (or at least draw no
connection with) quite blatant and parallel intrusions rather closer to
home.

The issue of course, for those with a sincere interest in the well-being of
the Internet, is not "hands off the Internet" but rather to develop means
for ensuring that the Internet is "managed" in the global public interest by
all parties.

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Leibrandt [mailto:michael_leibrandt at web.de] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:46 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein
Subject: Re: [governance] Yes! Hands off the Internet!

Hi Michael,

If your local car dealer rejects to sell you a car, or if the local night
club doesn't let you in, there isn't much you can do about it. Private
providers of goods and services are generally free to decide whom to serve. 
At least until it becomes an act of discrimination, e. g. against blacks,
gays or jews. Or if the provider has a monopoly (clearly not the case for
Google or Facebook), or has such a strong market position that it can
actually control the market.

So to compare government action and company behaviour is quite difficult. 
But there is already enough hypocrisy to think about with regard to
stakeholders of the same category ;-)

Michael, Berlin

----- Original Message -----
From: "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com>
To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:17 AM
Subject: [governance] Yes! Hands off the Internet!


> (from today's various Internet news feeds....
>
> Yes, for sure, these hands off the Internet.
>
>
http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/china-tightens-internet-control-b
>
ans-anonymity-allows-government-to-delete-posts/censorship-online-twitter-we
> ibo-xinhua-/c3s10510/#.UN2qcI7896I
> http://tinyurl.com/cryyx5l
>
> And these
>
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121228/07170621508/fisa-is-renewed-with-a
> ll-its-problems-still-intact.shtml
> http://tinyurl.com/d7trx4j
>
> And these
>
http://torrentfreak.com/google-removed-50-million-pirate-search-results-this
> -year-121228/
> http://tinyurl.com/d7trx4j
>
> And these
>
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/12/washingtons-blog-facebook-censors-pro
> minent-political-critics.html
> http://tinyurl.com/cn72l3v
>
> Maybe a New Year's Resolution: Enough with the hypocrisy!
>
> M
>
>
>


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