[governance] How cooperation could be defined ?

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Why does the fact that say vodafone makes a profit on providing cellphone service have to on any way detract from the value that people right down from the grassroots to the CEO level derive enormous value from access to mobile and internet connectivity, and services delivered over it?

--srs (iPad)

On 17-Dec-2012, at 23:35, riaz.tayob at gmail.com wrote:

> Can't speak for Dominique but the sentiment framed as more connectivity = greater market, everyone benefits distills away the fact that countries, and companies, do play for their own advantage... And to maintain them (for instance non disclosure of patents for standards setting, which changed somewhat...)... As the US is doing to maintain its hegemony (not withstanding being 'largely' responsible in how it plays its hand) ... 
> For Third Worldists, perhaps by definition, the divide is there... And it relates to overall outlook and manifests in various symptoms.... From Cir to iTu battles....
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> ...,...
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> On 17 Dec 2012, at 7:05 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at ccianet.org> wrote:
> 
>> I confess I too find the various assertions here difficult to understand. There is certainly much to be done to push greater connectivity at lower costs to more of the unconnected, but it is a fact that the number of developing country citizens connecting up each year is growing very dramatically overall. There are all kinds of very clever solutions to geography, limitations on supporting services (unreliable electric power being supplemented by solar-driven stations), and the like.
>> 
>> I think the picture painted below is awfully negative and suggests that the North is somehow against the South getting connected. This isn't the case, if that's the view; why would it be? On a purely commercial level the more people are on the Internet the greater the economic opportunity to serve them with products and services, for example.
>> 
>> If I've misunderstood the comments, I'm sure someone will let me know.
>> 
>> On Sunday, 16 December 2012, McTim wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu> wrote:
>>> > Hello world :-)
>>> >
>>> > Fadi Chehadé explains :
>>> > There is no war between ITU and ICANN, and there will not.
>>> > We must engage in a new season of cooperation, in the respect of each role.
>>> > Fadi Chehadé Explains the Decision to Attend the WCIT Opening Ceremony in Dubai | 28 Nov 2012
>>> >
>>> > The first part of the WCIT shows disagrement between North and South.
>>> > Because Northern governments and companies would be satisfied without
>>> > regulation, as in the great era of the free seas and freedom of commerce.
>>> > And South cannot access and build Net services in such conditions. Too
>>> > expensive...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Do you have any evidence of this assertion?
>>> 
>>> I'm currently wearing a t-shirt that says "Ushahidi", an example (one
>>> of hundreds I could name) of net services coming from Africa.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> McTim
>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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>> Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Nick Ashton-Hart
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