[governance] Russia/UAE text is officially introduced

Oksana Prykhodko sana.pryhod at gmail.com
Wed Dec 12 03:45:58 EST 2012 

Thank you very much, Alejandro!

In Ukraine we have only ISOC Ukraine chapter in formation, but we of
course support your excellent address by our European Media Platform.
we just the best way to do it

2012/12/12 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan at unam.mx>:
> Oksana,
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> only governments take the floor, discuss and decide. They tend to avoid votes and work continuously on text until there is some agreement or at least till disagreement is not audibly expressed.
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> Yours,
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> Alejandro Pisanty
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> Enviado el: miércoles, 12 de diciembre de 2012 02:32
> Hasta: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Rudi Vansnick
> CC: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
> Asunto: Re: [governance] Russia/UAE text is officially introduced
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> What is the procedure of voting? Who, when and for what will vote?
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> 2012/12/12 Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>:
>> Great work Alejandro, may we, ISOC chapters, forward your statement to our national delegation ?
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>> Op 12-dec-2012, om 05:06 heeft Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> the "compromise" text of 51-E is indeed horrible.
>>>
>>> ISOC Mexico has prepared a response, communicated to our national delegation:
>>>
>>> http://t.co/GJ2IYggU
>>>
>>> Hope you find it of interest. Comments welcome.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> Alejandro Pisanty
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>>> ________________________________________
>>> Desde: apeake at gmail.com [apeake at gmail.com] en nombre de Adam Peake [ajp at glocom.ac.jp]
>>> Enviado el: martes, 11 de diciembre de 2012 21:56
>>> Hasta: Sivasubramanian M
>>> CC: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>> Asunto: Re: [governance] Russia/UAE text is officially introduced
>>>
>>> Document 51 is the text that matters.  And the resolution is bad.
>>>
>>> <http://news.dot-nxt.com/2012/12/11/draft-itr-text-seeks-role-itu>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> McTim referred to the Russia/UAE text as C47. Adam's link to the actual
>>>> document introduced (after discussions, perhaps as a compromise) points to
>>>> Document  DT/51-‐E  11  December  2012  Original English  DRAFT
>>>> INTERNATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATION REGULATIONS.
>>>>
>>>> There are clever provisions in DT/51 --E. Do these provisions come from or
>>>> in any way a reflection of (a part of) the text from C47 ? Or, as Adam
>>>> points out, is C 47 ignored?
>>>>
>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 12, 2012 1:17 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But they have just finished discussing a document, briefly introduced,
>>>>>> <http://files.wcitleaks.org/public/S12-WCIT12-121203-TD-0051!!MSW-E.pdf>
>>>>>> (thanks again wcitleaks) that looks like a good start.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest a second look.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will be a long day tomorrow…
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure to be
>>>>>> arguments. The proposed resolution on enabling environment looks like
>>>>>> a wide open invitation for future ITU conferences to invade.  But it's
>>>>>> late, and  expect Kieren will have wise words on
>>>>>> <http://news.dot-nxt.com/> soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No idea what has happened to document 47, just ignored?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>>>>>>> WCIT Opening plenary, Hamadoun Touré:
>>>>>>> "In preparing for this conference, we have seen and heard many
>>>>>>> comments about ITU or the United Nations trying to take over the
>>>>>>> Internet.  Let me be very clear one more time:  WCIT is not about
>>>>>>> taking over the Internet.  And WCIT is not about Internet governance.
>>>>>>> WCIT is about making sure that we connect the billion people without
>>>>>>> access to mobile telephony, and that we connect the 4.5 billion people
>>>>>>> who are still off line."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WCIT is Dr. Touré's legacy.  If it fails he won't have too much to
>>>>>>> look back on after 8 years. A lot of compromise would be a good idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:48 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> as "C-47"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <sigh>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> McTim
>>>>>>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>>>>>>>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>>>>>>>>
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