[governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

[Lee W McKnight]

Michael,

Speaking as a Texan (by birth): just be glad ICANNites mainly hang in L.A.

Lee

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From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of michael gurstein [gurstein at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:29 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; 'Dominique Lacroix'
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Subject: RE: [governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

What was that about the US judicial system…

http://www.newser.com/story/152658/judge-tax-hike-needed-to-fight-un-in-us-revolution.html?utm_source=9at9&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20120823

(Just wait until the discover the Internet in Texas…

Tiny URL http://tinyurl.com/craqscm

M


From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Dominique Lacroix
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:37 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
Cc: McTim; parminder
Subject: Re: [governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

Dear McTim,

I would not like to hurt anyone on this list, but, beside considerations of legitimacy, I fear that placing Broadway in Ukraine in a 1930 items database is not yet completely a proof of readiness to govern the world. Is it?

(http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/290)

Best,


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Dominique Lacroix

Société européenne de l'Internet

http://www.ies-france.eu

+33 (0)6 63 24 39 14


Le 23/08/12 17:24, McTim a écrit :
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:43 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net<mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:

On Monday 20 August 2012 07:52 PM, Dominique Lacroix wrote:
I recall the proposal of Viviane Reding in 2009, when she was commissioner for Information Society and Media at the European Commission:
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/09/696&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en

Now she is vice-president and commissioner responsible for Justice, Fundamental rights and Citizenship.

Parminder, please, do you envision things in a similar way?

Yes. India's CIRP proposal<http://www.itforchange.net/sites/default/files/ITfC/india_un_cirp_proposal_20111026.pdf> is very similar. Only better developed, and with clear multistakeholder input systems. With a few differences, India's propose a body inside the UN, and the European Commission proposal, one outside. India proposes 50 country members, and European Commission’s proposal 12.


John, please, what do you think about Mrs Reding's proposal?

Yes, I would also like to know... You asked for alternatives on the table, and here are two.


There are more than 2.  A free-floating ICANN independent of nation state oversight is far preferable to a something where CS gives up its current active role in decision making to gov'ts.

Why would we want to do that?


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Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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