[governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

[Riaz K Tayob]

Parminder

It is always difficult for those who engage in institutions to change it 
to be completely open about their trajectory. If we give the benefit of 
the doubt to some change makers then time will tell...

The World Intellectual Property Organisation was independent of the UN. 
When it became part of the UN family there was kinda like a chopping off 
of the head (legally) and replacement with that of the UN without much 
change in operations etc. WIPO only recently adopted a development 
agenda - something that almost ALL UN agencies were committed to after 
establishment...

So it matters what kind of evolutionary trajectory is in the mind of 
change makers. If the argument is that unless there is a(/n concrete, 
real, what-have-you) alternative before moving away from 'effectiveness' 
to legitimacy & effectiveness it may be subterfuge of two orders... one 
of change makers where ICANN etc is the dupe, or where the likes of you 
are... this is so hard to judge... but in the long run (short of us all 
being dead) time will tell....

On 2012/08/20 03:37 PM, parminder wrote:
>
> On Monday 20 August 2012 06:58 PM, John Curran wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:14 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> 
>> wrote:
>>> The alternative is clear; a group representing all countries does 
>>> the CIR oversight which is at presently done by the US. And the 
>>> process ensures that no one country or even a group of countries can 
>>> capture decision making involved in the role......
>> Excellent; please point me to the proposal which details
>> this alternative.
>
> I have made the proposal several times on this list for a multi 
> country oversight board, that takes up the role of oversight exercised 
> by the US at present..... India's CIRP proposal present this 
> alternative at a higher level of articulation without the details... 
> These things go in steps, over discussions.
>
>>> There is *no* doubt that oversight by such a multi-country group, 
>>> with the involved principles and processes clearly defined, and the 
>>> nature of oversight powers narrowly restricted, is a much much 
>>> better system
>> Still TBD (to be determined...) - the assertion relies on information
>> not in evidence.
> What kind of 'evidence' a proposal for a new/ improved political 
> institution/ system can possibly produce?
>
> parminder
>
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>>
>> Disclaimer:  My views alone.  Reading this message while driving
>> may cause nausea or dizziness, as may reading this message while
>> motionless.
>>
>>
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