[governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

jonathan at jcave.eclipse.co.uk jonathan at jcave.eclipse.co.uk
Sun Aug 19 22:43:37 EDT 2012


(Re)producing selected masses of anonymously contributed documents does not, I think, constitute either 'speech' or journalism. This does raise an IG issue, since (as you note) only an extreme free-information (as distinct from free speech) position would argue against any filtration. That argument is already conceded in respect of e.g. hate speech, fraud and IP to whose publication the creator has not consented. It may be that IG needs an intent-based or results-based approach, but IMHO the wikileaks case is too weak to support the general argument. 

And intention does matter. It matters to the interpretation of what is chosen for publication, it shapes the selection and timing of publication, and it runs straight through criminal and civil law. Ignoring it is neither just nor fair. J. 


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From: Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu>
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Cc: Koven Ronald<kovenronald at aol.com>; <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>; <gpaque at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's
 vassal acts decisively and illegally

Le 19/08/12 23:57, Koven Ronald a écrit :
> Quite aside from that, from my perspective and that of many of my most 
> thoughtful American journalistic colleagues, it is clear that Assange 
> is motivated by a very strong streak of political anti-Americanism -- 
Disclaimer : I do admire great US companies such as Verisign, Google, 
Amazon, etc.
I like Apple, Coca Cola and Mickey Mouse.
I'm still an Obama supporter, as I was four years ago (I can prove it. 
It's on the Internet ;-))
I like so called "America". A great nation. My mother married an US 
marine. And half of my family are American people.

I'm not either an anti-American nor a spy. Can we begin free talks now?
> that he means to embarass the US government as much as possible. 
That was the result, for sure.

Not necessarily the main intentions. "Procès d'intention" (Google 
translate bugged, sorry...) are not fair, do you know?
> That may be a perfectly legitimate for a political activist. But it 
> undercuts any claim to be a journalist, Professional journalists 
> aren't supposed to follow political agendas.
A journalist may have political opinions and may express them. The 
journalist's duty is to prove what she/he says with documents or 
arguments. He/she has to provide readers means for thinking. But she/he 
cannot be deprived of freedom of thinking or speeching, isn't it?

As you are not a journalist, I guess, dear Koven, you may freely write 
your opinion on this list...

@+, Dominique

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