[governance] Should Internet based two-sided markers be regulated by countries or govts

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Sun Aug 19 02:32:41 EDT 2012


Sala (and Fouad)

I am a bit surprised at your emails discussing in such a positive manner 
the need for developing countries to assert themselves in global 
regulation of the Internet, which regulation we all know does in any 
case happen by default by powerful countries. For if indeed this is your 
political position or even inclination, why, when a UN CIRP kind of 
proposal is brought up even just as a dialogue opener, does everyone 
join the bandwagon of a shrill 'down, down' , even without giving it an 
opportunity of a reasoned discussion.

To discuss just one global Internet policy related issue that you have 
touched upon, fair distribution of taxes accruing, or that should 
accrue, from commercial transactions on the Internet, europe has an 
inter-country agreement on it.... Why shouldnt developing country also 
be party to such agreements, so that they dont lose revenue. However, 
when any real institutional proposal to move in such directions comes 
up, as CIRP is, how easily we all - and I address this specially to 
civil society from developing countries -  merrily follow the pied 
pipper's tune of 'threat to the Internet', 'theat to FoE' and the such, 
towards our continued collective bondage and domination by the North ....

Any political position, I would say. is only as good as the willingness 
to work on the corresponding real political possibilities. If you dont 
like a CIRP like possibility, sure, do suggest others. But what is the 
point in vain musings, without putting your political currency where 
your mouth is.

parminder




On Saturday 18 August 2012 11:19 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:
> I don't see why they could be exempt from taxes and why they should 
> not be regulated. Ordinarily just as any person travelling to another 
> country is subject to the laws of that country and this is true from 
> the moment you step into their airspace or water or cyber space. What 
> made the US take down Rojadirecta? See: http://www.rojadirecta.com/ 
> where you will see evidence of a domain name take down by ICE Homeland 
> Security Investigations?
>
> The only material difference really is that developing countries have 
> been dormant and sleeping. If you look at the regulatory trends around 
> the world, the developed world has been efficiently keeping companies 
> hosting content on the Internet in check and making sure they act 
> responsibly. All of a sudden when the "sleeping giant" awakens, ie. 
> the developing world wanting to do the same thing there are all kinds 
> of marketing strategies designed to take the focus away from the core 
> issues. The reality is that this is a new day, markets are being 
> levelled, knowledge is free and the developing world has been 
> empowered.  [/Slight bunny trail: If you think about how some of these 
> countries were formerly under the dominion of others, where much of 
> their wealth and natural resources were sized to build empires whilst 
> their own countries lie in ruins. Countries are now awakening to build 
> their nations, their infrastructures, their economies etc/]
>
> Why should'nt the developing world regulate two-sided market 
> economies? At the end of the day, the objections to "Taxation" are 
> about the "bottom line" and if that is countries' only mechanism 
> available for making these corporates act responsibly.
>
> In my view the crux of the complex debates revolving around 
> Regulations stems from the notion of "borders". Countries have the 
> responsibility of looking out for their respective interests.
>
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com 
> <mailto:fouadbajwa at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I was asked an interesting question today by a colleague on the
>     discussion about Google's interference in national electronic
>     commerce/e-payment, privacy and ITU-ITRs positions in developing
>     countries in Asia.
>
>     She asked whether developing countries should regulate two-sided
>     market economies where the platforms were US based content and
>     services providers and tax them and design laws to prevent their
>     interference within a sovereign country's policies?
>
>     Fouad Bajwa
>
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