[governance] India's communications minister - root server misunderstanding (still...)

Sat Aug 11 17:02:25 EDT 2012

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt
<toml at communisphere.com>wrote:

>  Milton,
>
> It would appear from my August 9 email on this *S*ubject: has me standing
> with the "worst states" and conflating IG and CIRs with the upcoming ITRs.
> That was not my intent, and thank you for pointing that out. Let me make
> clear that I am not a proponent of expanding the December ITR meetings to
> include root resources.
>
> However, I do believe that civil society should make clear the
> desirability of a more inclusive governance process for the CIRs. That we
> should advocate for a thorough exploration of the technical and process
> requirements enabling same, via an expansion of the root resources, their
> reallocation, or otherwise. And that we should make it an ongoing goal of
> the IGC to introduce and advocate these policy recommendations in all
> appropriate venues.
>
> Without a shove, there's little prospect of the U.S. relinquishing its
> root controls. With the U.S. the leading global power (financial, military,
> media, donor nation...), there's little likelihood of an uprising or
> coalescing of less powerful states demanding a loosening of those strings.
> And with this being an arcane and complex subject, who but civil society
> can lead the way?
>

Question: Do Critical Internet Resources fall under Critical
Infrastructure?

 US Department of Homeland Security define critical infrastructure as "Critical
infrastructure are the assets, systems, and networks, whether physical or
virtual, so vital to the United States that their incapacitation or
destruction would have a debilitating effect on security, national economic
security, public health or safety, or any combination thereof." See:
http://www.dhs.gov/critical-infrastructure. In fact it goes on to define
the various sectors one of which includes Communications Sector which
includes the IT Sector which provides provides critical control systems and
services, physical architecture and Internet infrastructure, see:
http://www.dhs.gov/communications-sector. Worth noting is that the IT
Sector is one of the 18 critical infrastructure sectors established under
the Homeland Security Presidential Directive 7 (HSPD-7).

If one looks at the Briefing papers for the WCIT, one of the topics of
discussion is Critical Information Infrastructure Protection. This is
something that countries have been looking at whether they are countries
within Europe (see:
http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/nis/strategy/activities/ciip/index_en.htm,
Australia ( see:
http://www.tisn.gov.au/Documents/Australian+Government+s+Critical+Infrastructure+Resilience+Strategy.pdf),
Asia (Japan/Korea etc etc) etc

In terms of Internet Governance, the issues then become:-

   - who is in control?
   - who is in control of what?
   - what is being controlled?
   - why is it being controlled?

> Best,
>
> Tom Lowenhaupt
>
>
>
> On 8/11/2012 11:15 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
>  In any event, the one thing we ought to be able to agree on is that this*
> [*root zone control] has absolutely no place in the ITRs.  The ITRs are
> not a framework agreement on IG, they're a high-level treaty of rather
> questionable utility that pertains to how traditional telecom services
> offered to the general public should be organized at the political level.
>  DNS matters absolutely do not fit in here even if the Russians and some
> Arab countries would like to stir it into the pot, and its inclusion would
> be a regressive step that would correctly engender such extensive
> Reservations as to make it meaningless.****
>
> **
>
> *[Milton L Mueller] Yes, yes yes! And it is not just the Russians and
> Arab countries who are responsible for this conflation of the ITRs and IG.
> One of the utterly counterproductive things U.S. civil society and business
> seem to be doing in their attack on the WCIT is inadvertently feeding the
> idea that the ITRs revisions _are_ actually about the root zone, ICANN,
> etc., and that the ITRs actually CAN effectively do something about them.
> In fact, the ITRs have nothing to do with that and even if there were
> support to make them about it, as Bill points out any attempt to do so
> cannot be effective as it would generate so many reservations as to destroy
> the whole treaty. There is actually very little effort to make the ITRs
> about IG CIR, even among the worst states. Russia seems to be making some
> half-hearted efforts to put IP addressing in there, but they failed
> miserably in Guadalajara in 2010, and have no more support, possibly less,
> this time. A Russian proposal to revive the ITU country internet registry
> idea, for example, was made 18 months ago and did not appear in TD-64, the
> basis for negotiations, which means it has no real support.*
>
> * *
>
>
>
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