[governance] New MAG announced
Katitza Rodriguez
katitza at eff.org
Fri Apr 27 09:19:22 EDT 2012
FYI: I do not have a solution. I only see a problem for non MAG members.
May be the MAG processes have advanced a lot to the point where
all stakeholders can start blogging about the MAG meetings (and issues)
without naming names?
On 4/27/12 3:03 PM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote:
> Thanks Adam.
>
> Rules are the same as previous years. Many well established NGOS has
> members
> and its easy to report to them (or they delegate trust to them) but
> the IGC community
> demand info. and to be heard, and if you are a MAG member, its hard to
> ignore them.
> There are other spaces where civil society has improved collaboration.
>
> But I honestly agree with you. It might be really hard to have a
> liaison/facilitator and it might
> not play well in the end.
>
> My question: If some new MAG members wont necessarily report to IGC,
> how otherwell established
> NGOs with members and individual will learn of what happen in the MAG
> if IGC is not the right place
> to share info? only selected people will have access to the info? Just
> curious!
>
>
>
>
> On 4/27/12 2:44 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>> From the press release announcing the new MAG "All Advisory Group
>> members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have
>> extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups."
>>
>> I think difficult to have a liaison or facilitator. It should be
>> enough that people joining MAG make a sincere effort to reach out to
>> their stakeholder group (and individuals will probably imagine that
>> stakeholder group differently), take views they hear to MAG
>> discussions, and pass information back. Regularly.
>>
>> Hope all those selected enjoy it.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Katitza Rodriguez<katitza at eff.org>
>> wrote:
>>> If someone play the facilitator role within the MAG civil society,
>>> it might
>>> work. But not everyone from civil society should do so. The MAG is
>>> terribly
>>> time consuming and if you actually want to influence the outcome, it
>>> will
>>> take you a lot of time. Its hard to do both re time issues. ie review
>>> workshops is really time consuming.
>>>
>>> In other venues, you always have a facilitator/ a liaison, that make
>>> sure
>>> the voice of their members are well covered. I think the IGC
>>> structure is
>>> sorta amorphous! Izumi might want to try to put things in order...
>>>
>>> I did have concerns on how to report back. You are in some way under a
>>> Chattam Rules and you also do not want always to disclose your
>>> strategy in
>>> advance. We have several gov. and other stakeholder in the group, and I
>>> believe it some comments can harm the effectiveness of the MAG civ.
>>> soc.
>>> while negotiating within other MAGs. My two cents.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/27/12 1:35 PM, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>> In message
>>>> <CA+YNoKh4uaCFSPewZdsBBe7UC6EHeZ9SrXtCqP-Z260gJ=JoYw at mail.gmail.com>,
>>>> at
>>>> 09:27:11 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Izumi AIZU<aizu at anr.org> writes
>>>>> And I quite agree with Ginger that we should have more active linkage
>>>>> between CS and MAG members. I will try my best but really need
>>>>> "input"
>>>>> from all members.
>>>>
>>>> How much feedback are you allowed to give the members? That's
>>>> always been
>>>> the thing I've found to be somewhat lacking - but if sworn to
>>>> secrecy is
>>>> understandable.
>>>
>>>
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