[governance] critique of the IBSA proposal

Rui Correia correia.rui at gmail.com
Sat Sep 17 18:33:51 EDT 2011


Ivar

I am not quite sure I agree with what you are saying. It is quite a vague
hanging in the air statement. I especially disagree with what you say about
about making jokes about politicians - I have watched Brazilian television
for 10 years and the level to which they mock politicians would be enough o
be jailed in two thirds of the countries of this world. I am saying Brazil
is a beacon of freedom of expression. As for telco regulation, it is even a
murky, shady affair in quite a few of the so-called first world,
government-hands-off countries. And you living in the US, should well know
what the FCC gets up to - granted, it has kept its stance on net neutrality,
but otherwise I would not rate it any better than its Brazilian
counterparts.

Rui

2011/9/17 Ivar A. M. Hartmann <ivarhartmann at gmail.com>

> Because I'm Brazilian and I'm fully aware of how government (both Executive
> and Legislative branches) deals with freedom of expression and telco
> regulation there, I would by default oppose a global body of IG run by gov
> representatives which is either suggested by Brazilian gov or influenced by
> it in any way.
> Just as an example, Brazilian law prohibited people from making jokes about
> politicians running for office during election periods. This was in force up
> until a year ago until the Supreme Court (not Congress, mind you) decided to
> put an end to it.
> Best,
> Ivar
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 15:27, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > Some first reactions to the IBSA proposal. You will not be hearing any
>> > applause from me. The proposal is unimaginative, backward-looking, and
>> > authoritarian. If it were actually implemented, which is highly
>> unlikely,
>> > the proposal would be very destructive.
>>
>> I agree with Milton.
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > over regulation of all the world’s internet service providers, hosting
>> > providers, mobile networks, and perhaps even equipment suppliers, it
>> > proposes to “integrate and oversee” the IETF as well. Presumably ICANN,
>> too.
>>
>> and if IT for Change has it's way, ICANN monies would be funnelled to
>> support this new Internet Overlord.
>>
>> <sigh>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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