Ivar<br><br>I am not quite sure I agree with what you are saying. It is quite a vague hanging in the air statement. I especially disagree with what you say about about making jokes about politicians - I have watched Brazilian television for 10 years and the level to which they mock politicians would be enough o be jailed in two thirds of the countries of this world. I am saying Brazil is a beacon of freedom of expression. As for telco regulation, it is even a murky, shady affair in quite a few of the so-called first world, government-hands-off countries. And you living in the US, should well know what the FCC gets up to - granted, it has kept its stance on net neutrality, but otherwise I would not rate it any better than its Brazilian counterparts.<br>
<br>Rui <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/9/17 Ivar A. M. Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivarhartmann@gmail.com">ivarhartmann@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Because I'm Brazilian and I'm fully aware of how government (both Executive and Legislative branches) deals with freedom of expression and telco regulation there, I would by default oppose a global body of IG run by gov representatives which is either suggested by Brazilian gov or influenced by it in any way. <br>
Just as an example, Brazilian law prohibited people from making jokes about politicians running for office during election periods. This was in force up until a year ago until the Supreme Court (not Congress, mind you) decided to put an end to it.<br>
Best,<br><font color="#888888">Ivar</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 15:27, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> Some first reactions to the IBSA proposal. You will not be hearing any<br>
> applause from me. The proposal is unimaginative, backward-looking, and<br>
> authoritarian. If it were actually implemented, which is highly unlikely,<br>
> the proposal would be very destructive.<br>
<br>
</div>I agree with Milton.<br>
<br>
<br>
<snip><br>
<div><br>
> over regulation of all the world’s internet service providers, hosting<br>
> providers, mobile networks, and perhaps even equipment suppliers, it<br>
> proposes to “integrate and oversee” the IETF as well. Presumably ICANN, too.<br>
<br>
</div>and if IT for Change has it's way, ICANN monies would be funnelled to<br>
support this new Internet Overlord.<br>
<br>
<sigh><br>
<br>
--<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
McTim<br>
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