[governance] Re: IGC on Facebook?

[David Allen]

No one, from this quarter, in this thread, has said anything against  
reaching out or spreading the word (or indeed said anything - at all -  
on the subject).  Indeed - indeed - over long years, the call, other  
threads, has been to make the IGC appropriately inclusive, not  
centered on a few who post most of the time.  That is central to the  
success of something that might, one day, be reasonably representative  
of at least one slice of civil society.

Rather, the (whole) topic in this thread - from here - is about the  
quality of the discussion space the IGC creates.  A forked discussion  
space certainly would degrade what is already a challenge to conduct,  
around the world, and suitably for many different cultures.

Outreach is separate from quality of discussion space.  Ultimately,  
one day, a wider constituency could bring front and center the sort of  
problem sometimes discussed re global governance, about how to  
facilitate exchange when a group grows really large.  But for IGC that  
lies in the future, if ever.

As to 'noise,' Louis pretty clearly points to the real problem of  
doing outreach well, rather than failing to have a well-thought out  
program.

Outreach is indeed important.  But not at the expense of degrading the  
discussion space in the first place.  It is key, I suggest, not to  
conflate the two.

David

On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> On another note, this discussion, or variants of same, seems to  
> return year after year in different guises.
>
> I do find the general "reluctance" of the IGC list to seek to expand  
> beyond its core membership base ("noise???") to be quite mystifying,  
> especially given its mandate to, if not represent, certainly provide  
> a forum for, the views of Civil Society in the areas surrounding IG.
>
> The mission of the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) is to provide a  
> forum for discussion, advocacy, action, and for representation of  
> civil society contributions in Internet governance processes. The  
> caucus intends to provide an open and effective forum for civil  
> society to share opinion, policy options and expertise on Internet  
> governance issues, and to provide a mechanism for coordination of  
> advocacy to enhance the utilization and influence of Civil Society  
> (CS) and the IGC in relevant policy processes.
>
> I, for one, am all for expanding the communication channels by which  
> the IGC seeks to effect its Mission and associated objectives, and  
> using that opportunity to direct the "noise" to a more focussed and  
> ultimately engaging experience facilitated by IGC "branded" tools.
>
> And, at the risk of playing firestarter, +1 for a real names policy  
> in the IGC social toolkit as well.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> I have been wondering about noise as well.
> Communication seems to me to work more efficiently, in terms of  
> "these are the issues", as information emanating from a known and/or  
> trusted individual. Rather than one large "IGC" campaign, individual  
> initiatives by IGC members, who use Facebook and other such  
> services, to spread information about the issues of Internet  
> Governance might have more real effect. And this would also serve to  
> break the language difficulties to a great extent.
> But one never knows how things will work until the experiment is  
> complete - so all power to Izumi for experimenting.
> Deirdre
>
> On 7 September 2011 09:46, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com>  
> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 14:55, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google <tracyhackshaw at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Still not sure why Jeremy's suggestion is not acceptable.
>
> Agree with Jacqueline, Siva and David at the same time.
>
> And why not use not only FB, but G+, LinkedIn, Orkut, YouTube, Quora,
> etc etc not to discuss or "fully engage" but to EDUCATE non-IGC
> members about the IGC at a high level and POINT to the IGC Open
> Discussion Tools/Social Network/Thingamajig?
> - - -
>
> My hunch is that would trigger much more noise than signal. Then who  
> has enough spare time to debunk the load of misconceptions ?
> Good luck.
> - - -

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