[governance] MEASURING the digital space - whose MEASURES apply, and whose do not

[Craig Simon]

I believe that Aadhaar is a highly significant development in this 
context... the question of a person's digitally-mediated social agency 
via electronic devices and globally accessible, biometrically linked 
identifiers. I'm not aware if Aadhaar has ever been discussed on this 
list (it's not global, but exclusive to India), but it's pertinent to 
understanding upcoming technology-driven shifts in mechanisms of 
governance and social service.

Some links...

http://uidai.gov.in/

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/world/asia/02india.html


On 9/1/11 11:42 AM, michael gurstein wrote:
>
> Good questions Craig... My use of "we" in the note was firstly refering to
> the folks on this elist and secondarily I guess, although that wasn't part
> of my thinking, CS as a whole. How the second "we" at least "constitute
> themselves as agents" is part, I guess of the thinking that needs to be done
> and is most certainly not a trivial question.
>
> Best,
>
> M
>
>
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> apply, and whose do not
>
>
> Michael,
>
> The question ultimately hinges on who makes up the "we" in your
> sentence, "my position was that we need to be thinking of global
> governance institutions and thus global measurements/measurement
> strategies..." How do the members of "we" constitute themselves as
> agents capable of voicing grievances and making demands in the first
> place? Who counts? Who gets counted? And so on.
>
> Of course, no practical mechanism exists to coalesce expressions of
> their/our grievances and demands at a massively internetworked level
> (despite my lonely efforts to build one). Consequently, there's lots of
> open ground for individuals to show up in Internet governance fora like
> these claiming they know what "Netizens" (or humans at an expressly
> global level) want, or should want. That's politics, which is fine by
> me. I don't think that we who participate on these discussion lists need
> much reminding that "we" have yet to be heard.
>
> In any case, if the makeup of "we" ever is sorted out, building a
> knowledgebase that draws sober and insightful attention to statistics of
> economic well being will be an important test of institutional
> legitimacy. So I applaud your efforts.
>
> Craig Simon
>
> On 8/31/11 3:56 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
>> Very interesting Craig...
>>
>> I understand you here as linking the question of Internet measurement
>> into the broader question of Internet identity i.e. as reflecting a
>> shift away from "national" statistics to "identity" based statistics
>> but understood in a global rather than a national context (to tie this
>> discussion back into the earlier one--where my position was that we
>> need to be thinking of global governance institutions and thus global
>> measurements/measurement strategies, rather than national ones (such
>> as the SNA/GDP etc.
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure where this goes from practically but I think
>> conceptually you are suggesting something quite valuable.
>>
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