[governance] Re: Proposal to Merge Website and Mailing List Consultations [Administration/Logistics]

Wed Nov 16 10:28:32 EST 2011

Hi,

Likewise I support all 3.

I specifically support at this stage enabling IGC to solicit/receive presumably small/crowdsourced donations to fund the merged Internet operations, whether funds are received by credit card or Paypal.

Once votes/rough consensus in favor of the 3 are received - seeing as I have seen no objection; this raises another question.

The Next Question: if the proposition then is to prepare for IGC to receive funds; is it to operate independently of cpsr and apc, which I am not specifically endorsing or opposing right now, or as a small project of cpsr and/or apc? With or without overhead? If we are talking independence and $, wouldn't IGC have to then be operating as a 501 (C)3 non-profit under US law (gasp, even - California law? ; ). Or, more politically correct, operate under similar basis of some other nation's laws. If we continue to operate basically as a low-budget project of CPSR and/or APC, and/or both as at present, this is not a problem; but if we go independent; then yeah we need to call in the lawyers right.   After more debate on under which nation's laws to register as a non-profit.

Of course then the funds needed to be raised would be well north of $500.

While I was hesitant to back similar efforts to institutionalize things years back, by now IGC has shown enough longevity/staying power, and Internet Governance issues don;t go away, nor does need for civil society's engagement, so I am fine with us entering into this discussion.

But it's then a discussion about much more than who hosts the website and listserv.

Of course I am happy to be told to shut up and put this broader discussion back on the shelf for another day and another year.

Lee

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Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Proposal to Merge Website and Mailing List Consultations [Administration/Logistics]

I agree to all three
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From: Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org>
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:56:43 +0900
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ReplyTo: governance at lists.cpsr.org,Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org>
Subject: [governance] Re: Proposal to Merge Website and Mailing List Consultations [Administration/Logistics]

Sala, I believe that this is your first "work" message as co-coordinator to the list, again congratulations! And thank you for making the clear proposal/summary.

Just to explain a little more. Until now, Jeremy has kindly extended his work
after stepping down from the co-coordinator around the web management.
He also worked very hard to streamline the web site management and
improved it vastly as we all know.

In order to further strengthen and stabilize our web operation, he suggested
that we consider the merging of the web and mailing list servers, and also
move it to a stable, commercial hosting. He will kindly offer his service
for the transition work, too.

So, we, co-coordinators discussed about this, and concluded that it's time
to start migration, with proper fund-raising. I believe $150 is also annual
cost for the server, thus $500 for 3 years. Jeremy, correct me if I am wrong.

For the fund, we welcome both small payment as well as big (?) money.
I mean if you could pledge say $50 per person, that will be highly appreciated.

We may not take the vote, but rough consensus on this list
should be sufficient for the action.

But we like to listen to you all first.

Thank you.

izumi

2011/11/16 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com<mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>>
Dear All,

:) Greetings from Asia Pacific! Trusting that you are all in excellent health. This email is in relation to our the status of our website and mailing list. Izumi and I have had discussions with Jeremy.

Kindly find the Summary enclosed and for those who are new to the list, we warmly welcome you. For those who are interested in further information on the range of dialogue that has taken place in the past, you have the option of going into the archived mail via the CPSR site or read the background information below the Summary.

Summary

1.   Given that the Website is hosted by APC and the Mailing List by CPSR, do you agree to have the Website and List merged?
2.   If you agree to the merging of the website mailing list and website, would you prefer to have it hosted by an independent server or rely on the generosity of a like minded organisation?
3.   What mode of fundraising would you prefer from the options listed below?

The Coordinators are in favour of merging the mailing list and the website and fundraising to enable the transition. We are also inclined towards hosting it on an independent server.  The cost is $150US for the Transition but to continue for 3 years, we are looking at fundraising for $500US.

All in favour for merging the list and website say – AYE (YES)
All in favour of hosting the list and website on an independent server say –AYE (YES)
All in favour for fundraising say – AYE (YES)

From,

Izumi and Sala (Coordinators)

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