[governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .?? (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Avri, very revealing report! Thank you.

frt rgds

--c.a.

On 11/10/2011 11:27 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was in Bulgaria for the domain.forun at which Rod spoke.
> 
> Of course I do not know what Rod and Parvanov spoke about.  But in
> other statements Rod, and Veni both made, they hid behind the
> bottom-up process and stated that it was rejected because of the
> bottom-up process and said that if the Bulgarians and Greeks wanted
> to change the rules they needed to go back to the ccNSO.  It is
> amazing how many time they invoked bottom-up process to defend
> unpopular Staff decisions - it was the mantra of the day.
> 
> Of course they never spoke of what bottom-up decisions they were
> talking about.  Was there a bottom-up decision about what sort of
> things were confusing similar?  Was there a bottom-up decision about
> a lack of transparency and the absence of an appeal of an arbitrary
> decision or an extended review procedure?  No, these are ICANN
> implementation details.  I was an observer of the ccNSO group that
> made recommendations, and these issues never came up.  And for the
> GNSO, no matter how much the bottom-up process has requested an
> extended review for confusing similarity, it has been rejected by the
> ICANN Staff.  ICANN Staff has decided on its own that it is supreme
> when it comes to harmful confusing similarity.  I remember no
> bottom-up decisions giving ICANN staff supremacy in any topic, let
> alone this one.
> 
> Another disturbing thing came up during these meetings.  There was a
> new notion introduced by those who spoke for ICANN.  I must note that
> I may have misunderstood it because some of it came from ICANN
> Staffers speaking in Bulgarian so I only heard a translation, but it
> sounded like the following:
> 
> In any review of Cyrillic or Greek characters, not only do they have
> to  worry about existing LDH (letter digit hyphen) ASCII TLDs, but
> also myst complete with potential LDH ASCII that might be applied for
> some day.  This notion was extend not only to un-allocated ISO 2
> character designations but to any Cyrillic or Greek TLD that may look
> similar to LDH characters.
> 
> I.e. the notion I got out was that if the Cyrillic or Greek looks
> anything like ASCII, they can't have it.  ASCII trumps all. While
> this is bad, considering the stretch ICANN Staff makes when making
> these decision (б looks like b - really???), it is really awful. From
> the discussions I understood this would apply in gTLDS as much as it
> does in ccTLDs.
> 
> If I understood correctly, this is a bad thing, and this issue of .бг
> is just the tip of the iceberg of a really serious defect in the
> ICANN process for new TLDs.
> 
> avri
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9 Nov 2011, at 10:06, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
> 
>> As I can see from the ICANN website, ICANNs Rod Beckstrom had a
>> meeting with the Bulgarian president Mr. Parvanow, the day before
>> yesterday (November 7). Did the Bulgarian president raise the issue
>> of .bg and what was Beckstroem response?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> wolfgang 
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