[governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

[Imran Ahmed Shah]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On
> Behalf Of Adam Peake
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 06:43 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Lee W McKnight
> Cc: Daniel Kalchev
> Subject: Re: [governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar
to other
> Latin ccTLDs?
> 
> How about we suggest no ascii should be used under an idn ccTLD. If
there's
> cyrillic at the second, third etc level then no one's going to confuse
that with
> Brazil.

[IAS:] If you would like to propose only Cyrillic characters will be allowed
for IDN.IDN (Cyrillic.бг) for Bulgaria, 
where ASCI.бг will not allowed, just to create a significant differentiation
this is a Cyrillic IDN domain. 
1. Please not that this is again different from the Fast Track  Program
implementation process where 1-IDN+ASCI.IDN is allowed. 
2. How the users will be educated to be able to understand that what's mean
what.
3. Today, Cyrillic-IDN.com & Cyrillic-IDN.net is already allowed, the above
education will not work in all cases.
4. Cyrillic-IDN.bg might be allowed now or in future, so again the formula
will not work to establish a common understanding.

> Still think taking this to the Ombudsman would be worthwhile. He might not
> be able to make recommendations to help BG, but could provide advice
for[IAS:]  
> the new gTLD round.
[IAS:] Ombudsman would be useful for the followings:
1.	To provide an example to be followed as precedent when the rules and
bylaws do not able to resolve the conflict.
2.	To prevent further decisions on weak backgrounds or against the
demand of user's requirements.
However, I think appeal with Ombudsman would only be workable, 
a.	if the case is submitted by including Bulgarian government
representative (applicant) 
b.	and we should know all about the consumer, 
c.	consumer rights, 
d.	decision against the consumer rights, 
e.	other similar examples and decisions made by the authority, 
f.	required solution / (to be proposed for helping Ombudsman for quick
decision making) 
and 
g.	if the IGC support this action, we should draft and propose a policy
in global prospect not only for the бг, however .бг example can be used.

Thanks

Imran Ahmad Shah

> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/11/6 Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu>:
> > I agree with the direction Avri and Imran have taken the suggested
> language for the letter.
> >
> > And disagree with all due respect, with Paul that there is any point at
trying
> to get a he said-she said apology process going.
> >
> > Let's just encourage ICANN to move on towards an open and transparent
> process in next phase.
> >
> > Which coincidentally sets stage for a belated .бг (.bg) remedy; with
noone
> making or asking for apologies.
> >
> > Lee
> > ________________________________________
> > From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [governance at lists.cpsr.org] on behalf
> > of Daniel Kalchev [daniel at digsys.bg]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 4:52 PM
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Subject: Re: [governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar
to other
> Latin ccTLDs?
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > This is indeed an interesting proposition, but until now nether the
Bulgarian
> Government, neither ICANN has accepted the possibility that they may have
> make a mistake at some point. It would be interesting to observe if such
> progress is possible.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Paul Lehto wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> To the extent possible, a statement regarding "mutual mistake of fact"
is
> usually grounds to get out of a contract or deal or understanding, and
into a
> new process or negotiation.   It also allows both parties to save face, in
that
> both have made a mistake.  I am not familiar enough with the details of
the
> communications and its history to know if this would possibly apply or
not,
> but if there is some basis for it, I'd advocate serious consideration of
making
> mutual mistake an element of a letter urging reconsideration of this
> (non)decision.
> >>
> >> Paul Lehto, J.D.
> >
> >
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