[governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

Thu Nov 3 11:53:00 EDT 2011

Think it needs to be raised somewhere, and one thing the Ombudsman can
do is identify problems, make recommendations to the Board.  Might
bring a good result, might make other processes better.
From the transcript of the public forum, Dakar:
(Filiz reading a question from a remote participant)
>>FILIZ YILMAZ:  (saying name) Bulgarian IUG.  Could you provide theBulgarian Internet community with an advice on the rejected IDN ccTLDapplication because of similarity issues?  How should we proceed ifthe majority of the people doesn't want a new string.
Greece has also the same problem.  Thank you.
>>ROD BECKSTROM:  Thank you for the question.  We'd be happy to havediscussions with you privately.  We don't have public discussionsabout IDN fast track applications.  Thank you.
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Adam


On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Daniel Kalchev <daniel at digsys.bg> wrote:
> Hi Avri,
>
> To further make things complicated, there is a theory within ICANN, that the
> IDN Fast Track process does not have the provision for correcting this
> expert opinion. By reading the Implementation manual however, one discovers
> that such provision is already there: ICANN staff may request review by a
> second three member panel for any application for which it was found the
> string is confusingly similar if either the panel feels they are not
> sufficiently capable or if the opinion is negative and the application is
> struck (our case). There is even a graph in the manual, that clearly depicts
> this situation. That graph cycles trough this process until the applicant
> withdraws the application or it is successfully processed.
>
> By the way, we may discuss this at length at our event in Sofia.
> Unofficially, as it is both not part of the program and we do not want to
> make the issue way too public. :-)
>
> Daniel
>
> On 03.11.11 16:31, Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On reviewing the Fast Track Implementation manual, I must concede: it is
>> ICANN, not its IANA component that appears to be at fault here.  My
>> apologies to the good people of IANA.
>>
>> I beleive that a mistaken opinion from the DNS Stability Panel, Interisle
>> Consulting*, has been accepted without due diligence.  While I have no doubt
>> as to Interisle's technical talent and its ability to protect DNS Stability,
>> I am curious about it capabilities in linguistic judgements and its
>> capabilities in the area of confusing similarity.  What I am more concerned
>> about is the inability for an appeal to this judgement, we all make mistakes
>> and all deserve a chance to have someone correct them.
>>
>> I might point out that this lack of appeal over string similarity
>> judgements is also a feature, or rather misfeature, of the new gTLD process.
>>  So I expect this case is just the first of many.  Although in the new gTLD
>> process, there is a specialist String Review Panel,  and the function is not
>> overloaded on the DNS Stability Panel.
>>
>> Avri
>>
>> * Disclaimer: I am a listed associate of Interisle Consulting, though
>> currently inactive and currently walled off from any of its ICANN activities
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2011, at 08:50, Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I thought this was a Fast Track process managed by IANA.  and that it is
>>> IANA that gets the recommendation from the Panel and make the determination
>>> on whether to proceed or not.
>>>
>>> I need to go back and check the process details, but I did not think
>>> there was any actual ICANN-that-is-not-IANA processing in this decision.
>>>  That is what makes it so hard to deal with by anyone as it occurs in the
>>> protected core of IANA.
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>> On 2 Nov 2011, at 14:09, John Curran wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IANA certainly made a decision in favor of Brazil and to the detriment
>>>>> of Bulgaria.
>>>>
>>>> Avri -
>>>>
>>>> I do not believe that "IANA" (either in the classic IAB use
>>>> of the term, or formal use per IANA Function Contract) was
>>>> involved in this decision.   I believe that you meant either
>>>> "ICANN" or "ICANN DNS Stability Panel" given the context.
>>>>
>>>> FYI,
>>>> /John
>>>
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