[governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?
Daniel Kalchev
daniel at digsys.bg
Thu Nov 3 10:49:51 EDT 2011
Hi Avri,
To further make things complicated, there is a theory within ICANN, that
the IDN Fast Track process does not have the provision for correcting
this expert opinion. By reading the Implementation manual however, one
discovers that such provision is already there: ICANN staff may request
review by a second three member panel for any application for which it
was found the string is confusingly similar if either the panel feels
they are not sufficiently capable or if the opinion is negative and the
application is struck (our case). There is even a graph in the manual,
that clearly depicts this situation. That graph cycles trough this
process until the applicant withdraws the application or it is
successfully processed.
By the way, we may discuss this at length at our event in Sofia.
Unofficially, as it is both not part of the program and we do not want
to make the issue way too public. :-)
Daniel
On 03.11.11 16:31, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On reviewing the Fast Track Implementation manual, I must concede: it is ICANN, not its IANA component that appears to be at fault here. My apologies to the good people of IANA.
>
> I beleive that a mistaken opinion from the DNS Stability Panel, Interisle Consulting*, has been accepted without due diligence. While I have no doubt as to Interisle's technical talent and its ability to protect DNS Stability, I am curious about it capabilities in linguistic judgements and its capabilities in the area of confusing similarity. What I am more concerned about is the inability for an appeal to this judgement, we all make mistakes and all deserve a chance to have someone correct them.
>
> I might point out that this lack of appeal over string similarity judgements is also a feature, or rather misfeature, of the new gTLD process. So I expect this case is just the first of many. Although in the new gTLD process, there is a specialist String Review Panel, and the function is not overloaded on the DNS Stability Panel.
>
> Avri
>
> * Disclaimer: I am a listed associate of Interisle Consulting, though currently inactive and currently walled off from any of its ICANN activities
>
> On 3 Nov 2011, at 08:50, Avri Doria wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I thought this was a Fast Track process managed by IANA. and that it is IANA that gets the recommendation from the Panel and make the determination on whether to proceed or not.
>>
>> I need to go back and check the process details, but I did not think there was any actual ICANN-that-is-not-IANA processing in this decision. That is what makes it so hard to deal with by anyone as it occurs in the protected core of IANA.
>>
>> avri
>>
>> On 2 Nov 2011, at 14:09, John Curran wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>>
>>>> IANA certainly made a decision in favor of Brazil and to the detriment of Bulgaria.
>>> Avri -
>>>
>>> I do not believe that "IANA" (either in the classic IAB use
>>> of the term, or formal use per IANA Function Contract) was
>>> involved in this decision. I believe that you meant either
>>> "ICANN" or "ICANN DNS Stability Panel" given the context.
>>>
>>> FYI,
>>> /John
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