AW: [governance] E-G8 second day reporting

Thu May 26 04:26:08 EDT 2011

Thanks again Divina for the detailed and very useful reporting. 

Just one point: If the eG8 will take place annually this will push the IGF in a competetive situation. Is there an option to combine them in the future? Interesting point. 

I remember that as a result of the G 7 meeting in Okinawa in 2000 the "G7 DotForce" was established as an outcome (and triggered the establishment of the UN ICT Task Force which was much broader then the G7 DotForce. A couple of years later DotForce became integrated inti the UNICTTF. :-))).

Wolfgang  

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Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Divina MEIGS
Gesendet: Do 26.05.2011 10:17
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Dear all
I forgot to add that i was able to make a final intervention at 7pm, emphasizing the fact that civil society deplored the absence of human rights principles in the recommendations that they were ready to carry to Deauville (besides enlightening them on the meaning of "governance")... 
divina

Le 26/05/11 10:02, « divina meigs » <divina.meigs at orange.fr> a écrit :

	e-G8 day two
	Day two was more broken up than day one, so I'll go quickly through the various sessions, to concentrate on the summary of recommendations that took place in the end (You can follow the details on line).  Please note that the whole thing was a relatively futile exercise, given the fact that most of the G8 documents are readied months in advance. However, there will be a delegation of 5 members from the e-G8 who are supposed to bring back the results/recommendations to the heads of states in Deauville. The delegation is composed of Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook), Eric Schmidt (Google), Maurice Lévy (Publicis), Yuri Milner (Digital Sky Technologies), Stéphane Richard (Orange) and Hiroshi Mikitani (Rakuten)-a very representative selection of powerful male billionaires.

	1-conversation with Neelie Kroes (European Digital Agenda Commissioner)
	some issues require rules, that can be applied by governments when the private sector doesn't act. These rules should be global. The G8 should take them seriously, make decisions and review them.  It is an urgent decision

	2- plenary 5 : fostering innovation 
	Good presentation of the stakes by Lessig, but the rest of the discussion less interesting and no solutions offered.  Lack of small companies made it difficult to hear voice of incumbents

	3- plenary 6 : digital transformation (of traditional business)
	no doubt among the participants that welfare packages and worker protection are gone and not worth defending. Public policy will have to adapt to such "painful" social perspectives and move towards jobs for young people based on mobility and no protection. Big companies are important because they influence small businesses that are part of their supply chain (75% of growth on internet is brought by old business). E-learning is a new mode for self-training and self-organizing. Public service obligations are an obsolete form of regulation and public service corporations should take the "public service test" ... micro-segmentation is the way to go: "serve the segment to one"; "businesses have to become democracies too"

	4- workshop 1 (theme 3): electronic liberty (workshop in presence of Nadine Wahab, Egyptian activist)
	interesting comments on Google's role in Egypt (meant to keep internet open for business, not to help the revolution). Importance of freedom of expression announced as key for business. Social media as part of toolbox for electoral campaigns. For Nadine Wahab, the organization of civil society came first, the social networks came second in the Egyptian movement. People will always choose pacific solutions and peace to terrorism. Transparency as best tool for fighting censorship (Perry Barlow from the floor). Democratic countries have to avoid double-standards. Role of companies (twitter) : defend the user's rights to defend himself. G8 should make internet access a human right 

	5-wokshop 2 (theme 2): Disinter media (the press): only in the presence of top newspapers with specialized content to sell. Rather happy about themselves, though they made the initial mistake of offering their content online for free. Backtracking on this by having single cost of content, with multiple outlets. Repurposing of stories for a global audience.  "content defines us, not the means of distribuiton" Sulzberger NYT)

	6-workshop 3 (theme 3): Data dilemma (privacy): 
	several definitions of privacy, but consensus on the users' right to control information about themselves. Confrontation of EU and US models: the European one not enough enforced and therefore not respected, the US one enforced by FTC and respected...

	7-Closing conversation with Mark Zuckerberg: social design will be leading aspect of internet future (example of gaming), being "grounded on reality"; doesn't believe in network effects; the Arab revolution is "not a Facebook thing, it is an internet thing" and what is necessary is organized people.

	8-Closing plenary: there were several bullet points that recapped each plenary and workshop (to be found online). Among the dominant ones: 
	            *private sector is faster than governments
	            *job creation is done by small corporations
	            *governments should provide access but not regulate content and focus on job creation

	**"governance needs to link business, civil society and government" WAS SCRATCHED  AS NOBODY UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT MEANS !! AND I HAD TO INTERVENE LATER TO ASK FOR IT TO BE MAINTAINED, IN A SPIRIT OF MULTISTAKEHOLDERISM THAT CHARACTERIZES INTERNET GOVERNANCE ISSUES IN ALL THE OTHER FORA OF THE PLANET...

	            *expression is not synonymous with property (might be scratched in the end)
	            *"governments must help manage social dislocations that will make the workplace more flexible but also more precarious" (might be scratched)
	            *G8 should discuss harmonisation of rules between countries for enterntainment (IP rights)
	            *mobile smart phones are dominated by 2 or 3 gatekeepers and this should require "strong antitrust oversight" 
	            *publishing governement data on line is a great start but is badly done. 
	            *eliminate software patents (definitely on the way of being scratched) -came out of "disrupters workshop"
	            *privacy legislation may restrict free speech. It needs care

	additional recommendations by  the panel: 
	            -big companies are good role models
	            -rapid response in case of breakdowns
	            -promote investment not regulation 
	            -rules of society should apply to internet  
	            -enable students with digital skills
	            -more organized participation from NGOs

	General feeling: some issues like security, IP rights are emerging but nobody seems to have a solution; nothing about cloud computing; nothing about risks in case of breakdown; nothing about public goods and open source or open data... general consensus for e-G8 to be made permanent (one voice saying every over year)

	                                    Divina Frau-Meigs, Paris   May 25th

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