[governance] IGF plus IGC + only members list.

[Katitza Rodriguez]

Can you elaborate your arguments, please?

On 5/22/11 5:49 PM, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>
>
> On 22.05.2011 17:17, parminder wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sunday 22 May 2011 02:02 PM, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> we've had this discussion about different lists countless times
>>> before. Fortunately, I think, there was never a majority for those who
>>> argued in favor of differentiating between IGF as an open
>>> multistakeholder platform and IGC as a civil society advocacy
>>> organization.
>> Jeanette,
>>
>> I did not understand what would you mean by non-differentiating between
>> "IGF as an open multistakeholder platform and IGC as a civil society
>> advocacy organization". Are the two not very different kinds of
>> institutions?
>
> They share one mailing list and I would advise against changing that.
>
> jeanette
>>
>> And our charter clearly poses IGC as a civil society advocate
>> organisation. That is what we are supposed to be, if we are not very
>> ably that at the moment.
>>
>> parminder
>>
>>> It seems unlikely that a new discussion would lead to different
>>> results. Therefore, if possible, lets not indulge in this issue again.
>>>
>>> My pragmatic suggestion would be to form informal and temporary
>>> subgroups for issues that need non-public coordination. The membership
>>> in such subgroups would be hand-picked and thus intransparent. Since
>>> statements on behalf of the IGC would still need voting, I don't see a
>>> problem with that.
>>>
>>> jeanette
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22.05.2011 10:18, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>>>> As one of the co-coordinators, I would like to respond briefly to the
>>>> request
>>>> or suggestion Katitza made about the need for creating a new, CS-only
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>> As already indicated here, there are pros and cons for this.
>>>> If there is enough support to go for voting, then, yes, it will be the
>>>> coordinators responsibility to open for such voting.
>>>>
>>>> I like to see how many are explicitly in favor of creating this new
>>>> list and
>>>> how many are not so, but before doing so, please express your 
>>>> reactions
>>>> first on the current list.
>>>>
>>>> izumi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also would like to call attention to the fact that this list is
>>>>> open to
>>>>> other stakeholders including public authorities, government 
>>>>> officials,
>>>>> technical community, and business sector representatives. Therefore,
>>>>> members
>>>>> need to understand that MAG members have a very difficult task to 
>>>>> share
>>>>> strategies in a public list. Any public strategy that we can share
>>>>> here, can
>>>>> always harm our collective efforts in spaces where disclosing your
>>>>> strategy
>>>>> in advance is a big problem and can harm our work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to ask the coordinators to create a list for IGC-only
>>>>> members
>>>>> that is close to their members. In that way, civil society MAG
>>>>> members will
>>>>> be able to provide a better report after the meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best, Katitza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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