AW: [governance] Internet G8 meeting
Izumi AIZU
iza at anr.org
Fri May 6 05:22:31 EDT 2011
Dear list,
Sorry for coming this late. I just came back from one week visit to the
earthquake/tsunami devastated areas again and could not really
put attention to the list discussion. I have only glanced this thread, not
in detail yet, I must say.
However, thanks Parminder for bringing this matter up, and agree with
all to have IGC statement in time.
I was an official proxy to Professor Kumon, head of GLOCOM, and
participated in G8DOT Force, and also brought Adam there.
I don't have much time now to write in details, but will try later.
Bertrand that time working for French Foreign ministry was
very much involved in the DOT Force, and supported the Non-profit
organization (NPO) participation - I believe it was called "tripartite".
And my both then, Prof Kumon , was asked by the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs of Japan, after the first DOT Force meeting in Tokyo since
there was no NPO they could put while all other countries could.
So prof. Kumon told MOFA to put me as proxy and they accepted it.
US government was undergoing the leadership change from 2001,
from Clinton to Bush administration, yet Marckle Foundation was trying to
be inside this tripartite and lobbied Clinton admin I recall.
In any case, this French meeting shows a very bad direction and
we should really make the case. It is almost the first major set-back
from civil society in the global ICT policy and governance stage since
2001.
izumi
2011/5/5 Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>:
> The G8 meeting that's a concern seems to be a side event, not part of the G8
> proper.
>
> See
> <http://gigaom.com/2011/05/02/france-to-internet-g8-will-talk-to-you-for-a-price/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+OmMalik+%28GigaOM%3A+Tech%29>
>
> All the same, it's pretty offensive.
>
> G8 in Okinawa/DOT Force did set some precedent for multi-stakeholder
> involvement so the situation in France now more than a decade later is a
> very great shame to see. Like many first steps DOT Force was hesitant and
> very far from ideal, but things have to start somewhere/somehow. The
> non-governmental stakeholders were hand picked by their respective G8
> governments (GLOCOM was the Japanese rep.) Developing country membership
> was very limited (Egypt, Senegal, South Africa, Tanzania), but their
> involvement was also a little unique at the time. Looking back the
> recommendations were naive. And it was undone by changes in government
> (Clinton to Bush), and by moving things to the largely ineffectual UNICT
> Task Force.
>
> FWIW the action item we worked on below. Now 10 years on.
>
> France G8: Sarkozy and Internet Freedom just screams oxymoron.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> AP5. Establish and Support Universal Participation in
> Addressing New International Policy and
> Technical Issues raised by the Internet and ICT
> a) Support should be provided for developing country stakeholders --
> governments, private companies, NPOs, citizens and academics-- to better
> understand global Internet and other ICT technical and policy issues and to
> participate more effectively in relevant global fora;
> b) The resource network identified in Action Point 1 should provide
> information
> on decisions that will be taken at such fora, an open platform for papers by
> experts, and facilitation of the exchange of views;
> c) Support a network of Southern-based expertise - which could access the
> resource network identified in Action Point 1- to support the
> representatives
> of developing countries as they seek to participate effectively in these
> fora
> and address these issues in their own context;
> d) Global policy and technical fora and organizations working on Internet
> and ICT
> issues should make a special effort to bring representatives of developing
> nations
> into their discussions and decision-making processes;
> e) The United Nations ICT Task Force should be encouraged in its stated goal
> of identifying options for involving developing country stakeholders in
> these
> new issues.
>
>
>
>> On Thursday 05 May 2011 01:58 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:43:18 +0700, Norbert Klein
>>> <mailto:nhklein at gmx.net><nhklein at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> There seems to be agreement that the IGC should respond (and I concur
>>> with this). I would like to invite Wolfgang or Parminder to volunteer to
>>> write a first draft. If they do not have time, I should be able to put
>>> something together as a draft based on their contributions to the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> While I can try to put together some text, i am not sure what really do we
>> want to say. If it is *only* an appeal to make the G 8 meeting more
>> multistakeholder, as I have argued earlier, I am not interested. For me, our
>> communication should clearly make the point that in any discussion on the
>> kind of issues that the G8 meeting is taking up, all countries must be
>> included on an equal footing. And this is best done in a UN forum rather
>> than at such meeting of most powerful nations. We can refer to the
>> inherently global nature of the Internet and how policy decisions taken by
>> the most powerful countries by default largely become applicable to the
>> whole world.
>>
>> We can then refer to the institutional forms that have been mandated by
>> the WSIS - enhanced cooperation and the IGF, and refer to subsequent UN Gen
>> Assembly resolutions that the two processes are complementary. Thus any
>> global public policy development should not only involve all countries and
>> all stakeholders, it should also always and continually remain connected to
>> the IGF as the agora where public opinion on key IG issues is formed and
>> shared. Something to this effect.
>>
>> Now, if these elements look ok, I can do some drafting. Thanks, Parminder
>>
>>
>> __________________________________
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