[governance] MAG meeting

[Adam Peake]

>In message <CAADCFAC-1DB4-4BE4-83FE-8268C24450E4 at acm.org>, at 
>20:59:20 on Fri, 25 Feb 2011, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> writes
>>
>>On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:42, Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>>In message <p0624081fc98d21dbe476@[10.58.179.68]>, at 02:16:55 on 
>>>Sat, 26 Feb 2011, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> writes
>>>
>>>>And we should ask that the commitment to the rotation of MAG 
>>>>members is honored.
>>>
>>>This is one thing that puzzles me. MAG rotation is supposed to be 
>>>one of the topics that the MAG recomends[1]. But there have been 
>>>several occasions (this week was one) where the topic seemed 
>>>taboo. And the final impression was that it was entirely the gift 
>>>of the UN.
>>
>>In the past this was up to the MAG.  And with the exception of a 
>>few people, most chose not to step down voluntarily.    There was a 
>>discussion of rotation most every year, and some MAG members were 
>>replaced every year.  I have actually never seen a graph of how 
>>many, in total and per group, rotated each year, so I don't know 
>>what the facts of rotation are.
>
>It's disappointing that there's apparently no official record of 
>this, but I have my own chart - which I referred to a few days ago. 
>It reveals almost no rotation in 2008, and a new influx of about 20 
>in 2009 who join 16 people appointed in 2006 and 18 from 2007.


I think there was a goal of one third per rotation.

There's probably some record in the MAG list or record of a consultation.

Pretty sure it was about one third each year as that would have meant 
by the end of the five year mandate the full MAG would have swapped 
out.  It's a pretty sustainable refresh rate.

Adam



>>I know the anecdotal impressions, but have no idea of what is the 
>>case. Has anyone done the tracking and have informative pictures?
>
>Perhaps I should publish my chart.
>
>>At the point of your puzzlement, at this point all organizational 
>>issues that do not relate specifically to IGF 2011 are out of  the 
>>IGF and MAG's hands.  Whatever the prior conditions were, all 
>>organizational issues and improvements belong to the blue ribbon 
>>panel of the CSTD IGF WG.
>
>If that's the case (and I'm not disputing it) then their outcome 
>will most certainly not affect IGF2011 (because it has to be sent 
>via CSTD to ECOSOC etc), so we have yet another annual cycle with no 
>MAG renewal. Which means that even the newest appointees have had 
>three years tenure.
>
>>If they solve this and only this, they will have made great 
>>progress. It is really hard to get a group to remove itself from 
>>the core. Somehow it seems that many of  those who have a special 
>>seat will do anything to hold on that seat - though there are some 
>>few that do surrender them readily and believe in things like term 
>>limits that make it easier to do so.
>
>I had originally understood the MAG rules to say that 1/3 would be 
>retired every year, with the assumption that (once there was a 
>couple of years to get a pattern started) this would be the 
>longest-serving 1/3. But that's clearly not what's happened.
>--
>Roland Perry
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