[governance] Your support for a petition

Sivasubramanian M isolatedn at gmail.com
Sun Feb 20 04:40:52 EST 2011


Dear Carlos,

"governments could object simply because the name is controversial, or because
one or two governments don’t like the applicant, or because an authoritarian
government wants to suppress the kind of content that might be published
under a specific top level domain name.

A veto could take place regardless of whether a proposed domain name
violated an international law, and regardless of whether its expression was
protected by the U.S. Constitution, the European Convention on Human Rights,
or other national and international laws or treaties prohibiting censorship.
There would be no transparency and no right of appeal."

Still unsure????

Sivasubramanian M





On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:55 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
wrote:
>
>
> On Saturday 19 February 2011 08:25 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>
> In general I see most countries in their role as handmaidens of business
and
> other powerful elites with a patina of public choice when it is not
> inconvenient to the elites.
>
> If your problem is that governments are mostly handmaidens of big business
> (and other elite) then the only way out is to keep seeking improvements in
> governments, by trying to make them more and more democratic (surely, some
> government forms are more democratic than others) as may be happening in
the
> Arab world at present. Grearter involvement of civil society and community
> based organizations is one of the important ways of improving democracy.
>
> In any case, the problem of business/ elite domination can hardly be
solved
> by going toward governance forms where big business is even more
> legitimately and formally a part of governance structures. And that is
what
> multistakeholderism in IG is largely turning out to be.
>
>  I see big businesses as conglomerates of people wanting to be rich
>
> No, 'big business' are people already very rich, and having resources and
> means to manipulate everything and everyone for seeking ever greater
power,
> unless there is some political check on them. More and more, 'big
business'
> is not even people, it is just fast moving blind capital, much more so in
a
> network society. There is no way to correct/ improve the wrongful acts or
> inclinations of big business other than through proper political checks.
>
> Therefore, the solution to both, the wrong kind of governments and the
wrong
> kind of business practices, is more democratic governance, not a return to
> feudal systems where existing power (then of rank, and now of money)
itself
> secures seats in the political system.
>
>
> and being motivated by profit more than principle, though often they hold
a
> principle (one i do not hold) that increase in profit is an increase in
> good.  There are exceptions and variations in both generalities, since for
> the most part generalities are always partially false while being
partially
> true. Yes, I know that is a generality. In terms of their roles, I see
them
> as equal stakeholders
>
> My problem with multistakeholderism (MSism) begins when it is raised to
this
> level. I can never see governments and big business are 'equal
stakeholder'.
> That  for me is the death of democracy. i can accept MSism as a
subservient
> part of democracy (which is the way the term was always used till I heard
> new formulations in the global IG discourse), but not as overriding
> democracy.
>
> parminder
>
>  among others each following their perspectives of what it means to
achieve
> the good, even when i think their good is not so good.  I see neither as
> representing the full will or interests of the people but only as
> representatives of some part of some people's will or interests at some
> point in time. So I  chose neither, but will work with either or both.
 And
> of course I know that it is a political choice.
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