[governance] RE: below the societal usage layer

[parminder]

On Monday 07 February 2011 10:23 PM, Lee W McKnight wrote:
> J
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> Anyway, this may all be premature for IGC, but I just wanted to get an early word - and a picture - out to illustrate where we are going, and what we will be defining more precisely in hopefully human-readable documents by next fall, with first draft open specs released about a year from now. If anyone or anything wants to join the virtual club of WiGiT - for now just send me an email, we'll be adding self-service buttons to the website soon.  Admission is of course free, as will be explained on our site http://wglab.net, when my students get around to it. Many of whom are from India, and doing very cool things - happy now Parminder? : )
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> Lee
>
I completely trust you Lee :). But yes I do believe in keeping a 
suspicious eye on any place of concentration of power, whether that be 
OECD or G20 (which includes India). More so when a group of actors or a 
set of institutions seem to be falling into the habit of deciding policy 
issues knowing very well that such  policies are expected, often 
designed, to impact people and groups outside the political spaces from 
where these actors/ institutions derive legitimacy, without 
democratically including them in the decisions. This only means that I 
believe in democracy, which it appears is living out a tenuous existence 
in the new brave digital world. Tahrir squares are not only needed in 
Middle East, there are many more places where power is blatantly 
usurped. In fact, when dominant power hides behind complicated 'systems' 
and networks, it may be even more  difficult to come up with the right 
strategies to counter it than when there are obvious symbols of such 
domination and usurpation (Mubarak, for instance).

Just to leave you with a 'democracy thought of the day' :) on a day when 
democracy made a giant leap, in, and perhaps through, Egypt.

Parminder

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> From: governance-request at lists.cpsr.org [governance-request at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of John Curran [jcurran at arin.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:10 AM
> To: jefsey
> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: [governance] Re: below the societal usage layer
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> On Feb 7, 2011, at 3:45 AM, jefsey wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> I think we should give more thinking at the way to turn this situation as an advantage. A smart multi-plug could be a blessing for this and other transitions and other services.
>>
>> Civil society should not only complain and propose at the societal usage layer, but also at the lower technical and human use layers that condition them. It does not make sense to demand things and not to care about their practical feasibility.
> Full agreement... In fact, the development of IPv6 has been one
> of the strongest influences on my thoughts regarding the need for
> multistakeholder involvement in standards and technical policy
> setting activities.
>
> It's perfectly reasonable to have the technological constraints
> play a major factor in outcome determination, but not without
> the proactive solicitation of views from those affected by the
> results.  It's incredibly challenging to get done right, since
> you really need to interface both early on with requirements,
> and then periodically as an outcome is evolving; also, such
> interfaces need to be done at a level that is appropriate  (i.e.
> it's not reasonable to email a 70 page detailed technical spec
> to civil society organizations and ask for input; you have to
> prepare briefing materials that explain the current likely
> outcome in lay terms)
>
> In IPv6, this did not happen with even with respect to the ISP
> &  operator community, let along civil society organizations, and
> it shows in the outcome.
>
> /John
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