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On Monday 07 February 2011 10:23 PM, Lee W McKnight wrote:
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Anyway, this may all be premature for IGC, but I just wanted to get an early word - and a picture - out to illustrate where we are going, and what we will be defining more precisely in hopefully human-readable documents by next fall, with first draft open specs released about a year from now. If anyone or anything wants to join the virtual club of WiGiT - for now just send me an email, we'll be adding self-service buttons to the website soon. Admission is of course free, as will be explained on our site <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wglab.net">http://wglab.net</a>, when my students get around to it. Many of whom are from India, and doing very cool things - happy now Parminder? : )
Lee
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I completely trust you Lee :). But yes I do believe in keeping a
suspicious eye on any place of concentration of power, whether that
be OECD or G20 (which includes India). More so when a group of
actors or a set of institutions seem to be falling into the habit of
deciding policy issues knowing very well that such
policies are expected, often designed, to impact people and groups
outside the political spaces from where these actors/ institutions
derive legitimacy, without democratically including them in
the decisions. This only means that I believe in democracy, which it
appears is living out a tenuous existence in the new brave digital
world. Tahrir squares are not only needed in Middle East, there are
many more places where power is blatantly usurped. In fact, when
dominant power hides behind complicated 'systems' and networks, it
may be even more difficult to come up with the right strategies to
counter it than when there are obvious symbols of such domination
and usurpation (Mubarak, for instance). <br>
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Just to leave you with a 'democracy thought of the day' :) on a day
when democracy made a giant leap, in, and perhaps through, Egypt. <br>
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Parminder <br>
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Subject: [governance] Re: below the societal usage layer
On Feb 7, 2011, at 3:45 AM, jefsey wrote:
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I think we should give more thinking at the way to turn this situation as an advantage. A smart multi-plug could be a blessing for this and other transitions and other services.
Civil society should not only complain and propose at the societal usage layer, but also at the lower technical and human use layers that condition them. It does not make sense to demand things and not to care about their practical feasibility.
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Full agreement... In fact, the development of IPv6 has been one
of the strongest influences on my thoughts regarding the need for
multistakeholder involvement in standards and technical policy
setting activities.
It's perfectly reasonable to have the technological constraints
play a major factor in outcome determination, but not without
the proactive solicitation of views from those affected by the
results. It's incredibly challenging to get done right, since
you really need to interface both early on with requirements,
and then periodically as an outcome is evolving; also, such
interfaces need to be done at a level that is appropriate (i.e.
it's not reasonable to email a 70 page detailed technical spec
to civil society organizations and ask for input; you have to
prepare briefing materials that explain the current likely
outcome in lay terms)
In IPv6, this did not happen with even with respect to the ISP
& operator community, let along civil society organizations, and
it shows in the outcome.
/John
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