[governance] SOPA or no SOPA

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Thu Dec 15 22:50:20 EST 2011


On 12/15/11, Paul Lehto <lehto.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:49 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the traditional IG processes that have served us well for many
>> decades the "special interest has been overwhelmingly the development
>> of the network.
>> [snip]
>> There is far less rent-seeking in IG processes than in our current
>> governmental processes.
>> [snip]
>> > those areas, a stakeholder process might work and can be "trusted" not
>> > to
>> > make special interest value choices along the way.  Outside technical
>> > areas, where value choices must be made, the stakeholder structure will
>> > help strongly to defeat common sense every single time, because all or
>> > nearly all of the players are there for themselves,  and not to
>> > vindicate
>> > the public interest or the common person.
>>
>> If this is the case, then it is a miracle that the Internet has gotten
>> to the point it has.  I generally don't believe in miracles.
>>
>> In the times of infancy of a system such as the internet, the vast
> majority of decisions regarding things along the lines of foundational
> structures are things even special interests can agree on (recall, if you
> read it, what I said about huge consensuses concerning certain basic
> propositions from "behind the veil of ignorance" and just apply that to
> certain basic actions in internet-development).
>
> But now we are into later phases in most places (not in infancy) and
> special interest politics will increasingly rear its ugly head.
>
> But in any case, your presumption of harmony with special interests up to
> this point is highly exaggerated, unless you've been somewhat sleeping
> through all the debates and controversies about internet governance these
> last years.


Here is  case that describes what I was talking about.

People act in the best interests of the Net, despite it being against
their "special interests":

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111208/04411817008/paul-vixie-sopapipa-would-be-good-my-business-im-still-against-it.shtml

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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