[governance] Another Immovable Legal Object Meeting An Irresistable Internet Force (this time it ain't Taipei...
Paul Lehto
lehto.paul at gmail.com
Wed Aug 17 20:08:25 EDT 2011
A Lawless world is welcomed by extremel few that have considered the
implications, with radical anarchists the main exception. That said,
there has been a global economy using a recognized matrix of national
and int'l law for quite a number of years. In addition, telephones
have been regulated fornearly a century, even though they're a
telecommunications network and an older access point for the internet
too. So, I don't find your assertions of the difficulty of regulating
the whole web from one nation-state to be worrisome or even relevant.
It amounts to a repeated point whose main importance is the extent to
which it fools people into a false sense of futility, thus leaving
control of the internet to various private parties that utilize
'private' law like contracts and TOS to regulate the internet
according to their individual vision instead of the public good, and
all too often at the expense, financial and otherwise, of the many.
On 8/17/11, Sonigitu Ekpe <sonigituekpe at crossriverstate.gov.ng> wrote:
> Thank you Daniel for that question.
> May, I include this, "who or on what basis has the authority to ascertain
> what is good and bad in a borderless world? , Or do we need to do what we
> can do to get going?
>
> Warm wishes,
>
> Sea.
>
> On 17 Aug 2011 11:46, "Daniel Kalchev" <daniel at digsys.bg> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 13.08.11 07:02, Paul Lehto wrote:
>>
>> If the internet is "different" specifically in the sense ...
> Nice try Paul, but please don't claim I suggested any of this!
> Internet is different. :) Here, in this reality humans can freely express
> and those who read sometimes understand.
>
> All I said is, because Internet is different, in that it obeys no borders,
> there is no applicable law of 'democratic nature', designed outside of the
> Internet, that is applicable to Internet as whole.
>
> This is because by (your) definition, let me cite:
>
>
>>
>> The Rule of Law refers to the priority or primacy of the laws made by
>> actions of freely elect...
> Internet is a different reality, than the physical world. It crosses any and
> all borders of the physical world.
>
> I asked you a simple question. Let me ask again: how does a "democratically
> elected" entity in one country have any power in another country, where that
> same entity is NOT democratically elected to have that power?
>
> Otherwise, I agree -- everything you say is correct, in theory. Only problem
> is you try to project it in a different reality, where the projection might
> not even make sense.
>
> Daniel
>
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