On NN workshop RE: Re: [governance] Three IGC workshops ) NN FYI DIPLO

Wed Apr 20 04:28:12 EDT 2011

Hi Marilia
This option would meet the national legal instruments. which means
that the legislative
and judicial institutions are sufficiently imbued with the regulatory
provisions on the Internet. What is true in most countries. But the question is
still pending with regard to some African countries, in this case the DR
Congo, my country, which lacks adequate legislation and takes into account
the dimension of Internet governance at the national level. The Council of
Europe is present in all these processes qualitatively and could serve as a
reference for other countries that have not yet thought to build this kind of
management mechanism of the Internet to benefit communities. Danscette
optics, not to be the link that is missing in the chain, would it not
desirable to provide for the next IGF, after Nairobi, capitalizing on this
experience the Council of Europe with African stakeholders? If this is
possible in Nairobi, as much if not consider whether this proposal is
accepted we can discuss the procedure.
This is an idea that can also be rejected. But the daily reality obliges us
to say things as they are.

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2011/4/20 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>

> I would like very much to hear what you think about the following way to
> formulate the principle of network neutrality:
>
>
>
> "Users should have the greatest possible access to Internet-based content,
> applications and services of their choice, whether or not they are offered
> free of charge, using suitable devices of their choice. Any traffic
> management measure or privilege should be non- discriminatory, justified by
> overriding public interest, and must meet the requirements of international
> law on the protection of freedom of expression and access to information."
>
>
>
> This was put forth by the CoE ad hoc Advisory Group on cross-border
> Internet. The aim is to draft a Declaration on Internet Governance
> Principles.
>
> The full set of principles can be found here:
> http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/media-dataprotection/conf-internet-freedom/Internet%20Governance%20Principles.pdf
>
>
>
> As far as I understand, comments to this document can be sent until May
> 13.
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Roland Perry <
> roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:
>
>> In message
>> <75822E125BCB994F8446858C4B19F0D7172066B2D7 at SUEX07-MBX-04.ad.syr.edu>,
>> at 11:28:31 on Mon, 18 Apr 2011, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
>> writes
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>
>> >> That definition excludes the possibility of blocking VoIP because the
>> >> incumbent telco doesn't want the commercial competition.
>> >
>> >[Milton L Mueller]
>> >
>> >No, it doesn't. The telco doesn't block ALL VoIP, it blocks someone
>> else's VoIP
>>
>> I wasn't thinking about VoIP that's blocked because it's a brand of VoIP
>> in which an ISP/Telco has a lack of commercial interest, but those
>> countries which block *all* VoIP because it offends their licencing
>> conditions, which in turn are probably there to protect the incumbent.
>> [And if you want to get complicated, maybe to protect the ability of the
>> authorities to wiretap].
>>
>> >> VoIP is a clearly a "service type"; there are many owners and origins,
>> >> and the content could just as easily be people trying to book hotel
>> >> rooms, as calls to organise an anti-government protest meeting.
>> >[Milton L Mueller]
>> >
>> >VoIP is never blocked because it is a "service type," it is blocked
>> because it is _your_ service and not" _my_ service, ergo it is
>> >discrimination based on the origin or owner of the service.
>>
>> Even then, the extent to which (say) SIP is one service and Skype is a
>> quite separate and non-interoperable service; if an ISP/Telco decided to
>> block SIP voicemail because they[1] hadn't paid a levy and allow Skype
>> because it had[2], that could also be regarded as a breach of Service
>> Neutrality (SIP service being different from Skype), and not a breach of
>> Participant Neutrality because all SIP providers/users were treated the
>> same.
>>
>> What this may in fact be demonstrating is that "Voice over IP" is too
>> broad a category to be used in this context, just as "Pictures over IP"
>> or "Written word over IP" might also encompass too many different
>> services to be taken as a single category.
>>
>> [1] A broad coalition of commercial and non-commercial operators, so
>>     without settlement-based peering, collecting money is going to be
>>     very difficult.
>> [2] I'm not ruling out the possibility they might - one mobile network
>>     in the UK has an alliance with Skype and allows unlimited free
>>     Skype calls from its specially branded handsets.
>> --
>> Roland Perry
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