On NN workshop RE: Re: [governance] Three IGC workshops ) NN FYI DIPLO
Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Thu Apr 14 18:00:57 EDT 2011
If there is a Network Neutrality Workshop, I would suggest that both
developed and developing countries' perspectives are shared so that we can
have a global holistic picture of the topic and issues and how they are
interconnected to each other.
Sala
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
> It would be advisable that for once, this workshop should only give the
> developing world perspective. What I have felt on NN issues is lobbies
> fighting with each other while keeping out the developing world segment that
> will be truly affected by the Internet.
>
> I want to add the capacity building element here. I don't see a single
> activity on the ground where a certain NN advocacy group has gone to
> regulators to educate them on NN related issues and how to/not to develop a
> stand on the issue. The fact remains that the larger portion of Internet and
> Web resources remain in the developed West and the developing east and south
> are usually outside the picture.
>
> Not having the knowledge nor capacity leads regulators to regulate the
> Internet in such a way that is not beneficial for their citizenry and in the
> long run not at all beneficial for the governments themselves because they
> cap themselves from providing their social and economic setup the
> opportunity that a neutral network would actually offer. This is a whole
> different debate.
>
> Within the NN debate I am yet to see corporations from the developing world
> step into the discussion or fight on issues pertaining to the topic at any
> global Internet discussion forum so the issue remains, do we want to bring
> in those that continue to blur the NN debate and give them the opportunity
> to continue to do so or should we now move the whole NN discussion towards
> the developing countries.
>
> I appreciate the fact that such detailed documentation is being identified
> but it really does not reflect an opportunity but more of a blurring
> activity that should be avoided and a very subjective approach to addressing
> the NN realities keeping developing countries as the focus should be
> adopted.
>
> _-- FoO
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Vladimir Radunovic <vladar at diplomacy.edu>wrote:
>
>> Janna, Jeremy, Parminder, colleagues,
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me reflect briefly on NN proposal.
>>
>>
>>
>> Searching for common sets of norms is the right next step, I agree.
>> Summarising the discussion of previous years, and especially of the latest
>> workshop at the IGF in Vilnius, there are two major open issues related to
>> such a common set of norms:
>>
>> 1) *Format of the "document",* if any:
>>
>> · business is inclined to support "ex post" (case-by-case) rather
>> than "ex ante" regulation, justifying it with competition and need for space
>> for innovations in business models;
>>
>> · users are inclined to ask for a more formal "safeguards" from
>> the big telco business, not trusting the market only (esp. after the
>> economic crises);
>>
>> · regulators (some of them - like Norway) work towards
>> "collaborative regulation" with finding the win-win approach for all sides
>> and formulising it in the "guidelines"/"recommendations" format, yet leaving
>> the option of the "stick" to move it to "hard law" if needed
>>
>> *2) **"Exceptions" from these norms*
>>
>> · business presents the challenges in broadband delivery and qos
>> - especially with wireless internet - in light of "next billion users" and
>> new high-bandwidth services that are still to come; they argue that, while
>> NN for "Internet as we know it" is fine, space should be given to "new
>> services" (and they/we don't know yet what these will be) to develop without
>> limitations - therefore allowing the "exceptions"
>>
>> · users are eager to hear more on what these services will really
>> be and if there is really a need for exceptions - especially in developing
>> countries where it is expected the next billion users will start using "the
>> new services" immediately as well
>>
>> · regulators are cautious - on one hand they need to assure
>> consumers protection and innovations at ends, while on the other hand they
>> need to create the environment to business for further investments and
>> possible innovations in business models as well
>>
>> Based on these two components, the discussion on possible effects of NN
>> set of norms on business and users - especially on developing countries -
>> can be analysed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Diplo supports this workshop and will be happy to co-sponsor it and assist
>> with preparations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since we will likely again bring number of successful participants of our
>> capacity building programmes from developing countries - from governments,
>> regulators, civil society... - to the IGF, we may get them involved directly
>> as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best!
>>
>>
>>
>> Vlada
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>> Vladimir Radunovic
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>> Coordinator
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>> Internet Governance Programmes
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>> DiploFoundation
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>> email: vladar at diplomacy.edu
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>> -------- Original Message --------
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>> *Subject: *
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>> Re: [governance] Three IGC workshops (summary)
>>
>> *Date: *
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>> Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:07:46 -0400
>>
>> *From: *
>>
>> Janna Anderson <andersj at elon.edu> <andersj at elon.edu>
>>
>> *Reply-To: *
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>> governance at lists.cpsr.org,Janna Anderson <andersj at elon.edu><andersj at elon.edu>
>>
>> *To: *
>>
>> <governance at lists.cpsr.org> <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Jeremy Malcolm
>> <jeremy at ciroap.org> <jeremy at ciroap.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all of your work; as usual wonderful at all levels.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you need a co-sponsor to list for any of these if you think Imagining the
>>
>> Internet may be helpful to list, please do so. I will try to provide
>>
>> assistance as is possible. I'm not completely certain that we are funded for
>>
>> the Nairobi journey, but I hope and expect that I or another faculty leader
>>
>> from Imagining the Internet will be there with as many as three or four
>>
>> students to do documentary coverage and provide support in any way we can
>>
>> for all at IGF and the IGC.
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to add that Diplo Foundation has been leading net neutrality
>>
>> discussions at the past two IGFs. I do not know if Vladimir Radinovich and
>>
>> the others want to be involved or not, but I thought I would pass that along
>>
>> to you. You or Ginger might want to contact them directly, so this can be
>>
>> value-added work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Janna
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/11/11 1:11 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <jeremy at ciroap.org> <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'm not proposing to do an actual consensus call poll over the three IGC
>>
>> > workshops, since they are not in the nature of statements and there is
>>
>> > room for many viewpoints within all of them, but this is a summary of
>>
>> > the status of our three workshop proposals so far, to which any more
>>
>> > suggestions or serious objections are invited. We also need volunteers
>>
>> > to co-organise and to serve as remote moderators as noted below.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > These are listed here in the order they were proposed. We will be
>>
>> > submitting the workshop proposals by this Friday.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > 1. Reflection on the Indian proposal towards an IGF 2.0
>>
>> >
>>
>> > As a participant in the CSTD's Working Group on Improvements to
>>
>> > the IGF, the Government of India recently provided a set of
>>
>> > "Proposed Improvements to IGF Outcomes, in Keeping with the UN
>>
>> > General Assembly Mandate". Although there was no consensus
>>
>> > around this proposal, the ten suggested improvements reflect
>>
>> > proposals that some other countries and other stakeholder groups
>>
>> > have also previously aired. It is also one of the only
>>
>> > relatively comprehensive written proposals on IGF outcomes to
>>
>> > emerge from the Working Group, and therefore provides a
>>
>> > convenient starting point for further discussion.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > It was suggested in the proposal that the MAG identify key
>>
>> > questions for the IGF to deliberate upon, that a Working Group
>>
>> > for each issue develop background material on it, to be
>>
>> > considered by the IGF through workshops, a roundtable
>>
>> > discussion, and possible inter-sessional meetings, and that
>>
>> > discussion at the plenary level would result in an IGF report on
>>
>> > each issue that would be transmitted to the CSTD and other
>>
>> > relevant bodies for their action and feedback.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Since it was not possible for the CSTD Working Group to fully
>>
>> > discuss these suggestions, this workshop is intended to provide
>>
>> > a space to do so more fully. The workshop will provide an
>>
>> > opportunity for all stakeholders to consider the merits of the
>>
>> > proposals as well as their shortcomings, and consider whether
>>
>> > and how to take such proposals forward.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Sponsors: IGC, others TBC (possibly ISOC Chennai)
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Organisers for IGC: Jeremy Malcolm and Marilia Maciel
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Remote moderator: TBC (volunteer needed!)
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Speakers: TBC
>>
>> >
>>
>> > 2. Mapping Internet Governance
>>
>> >
>>
>> > This workshop will explore where and how Internet Governance
>>
>> > decisions are currently taken. What are the relevant fora and
>>
>> > decision-making bodies? In what topic areas do they make
>>
>> > decisions and with what kinds of impacts? How can individuals
>>
>> > and stakeholder organizations make sure that their viewpoints
>>
>> > and concerns are appropriately taken into consideration?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Besides having a discussion of these topics in Nairobi, the
>>
>> > workshop aims at initiating a multistakeholder process for
>>
>> > creating a document "Map of Internet Governance" which addresses
>>
>> > these questions, and for thereafter keeping this document
>>
>> > up-to-date.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Sponsors: IGC, others TBC
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Organisers for IGC: Nobert Bollow (another needed!)
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Remote moderator: TBC (volunteer needed!)
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Speakers: TBC
>>
>> >
>>
>> > 3. A possible framework for global Net Neutrality
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Network Neutrality has been one of the hottest Internet public
>>
>> > policy issues in many countries, over the last year; US's
>>
>> > Federal Communications Commission came out with NN guidelines
>>
>> > that built over an agreement between two principal corporate
>>
>> > players in the area, EU has bene conducting a pulbic hearing on
>>
>> > the issue, French telecom regulatory authority have come out
>>
>> > with a set of NN proposals and recommendations, Brazil a
>>
>> > drafting a new civil rights framework for the Internet of which
>>
>> > NN is an important issue. Earlier, in 2009, Norway came out with
>>
>> > a much acclaimed set of NN guidelines.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > In the background, since Internet is essentially a global
>>
>> > network and finally there must be common global norms on whether
>>
>> > content can be prioritised across global digital highways
>>
>> > including across global interconnection points) on payments by
>>
>> > the content providers or not. Interesting, cross border network
>>
>> > neutrality is a subject being dealt with by an experts committee
>>
>> > on the Council of Europe. If we do not start talking about
>>
>> > global norms, taking into consideration the interests and
>>
>> > viewpoints of all involved, we will eventually be faced by a
>>
>> > default regime of global traffic flows which will be whatever
>>
>> > gets decided by the key economic powers. This is undemocratic
>>
>> > way of subjecting the global public to the political choices of
>>
>> > a few, most powerful. On the other hand, it is also true that
>>
>> > even in the more powerful nations, policy making in this area
>>
>> > may become hostage to the interests of multinational digital
>>
>> > corporations at the cost of the national public interest. It it
>>
>> > therefore of considerable value even for the more powerful
>>
>> > countries to seek global norms on NN.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > The proposed workshop will explore the emerging progressive
>>
>> > regimes in different countries and explore the possibility of
>>
>> > coming up with a common set of global norms on NN.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Sponsors: IGC, IT for Change (I presume), others TBC
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Organisers for IGC: Parminder Jeet Singh
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Remote moderator: TBC (volunteer needed!)
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Speakers: TBC
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Janna Quitney Anderson
>>
>> Director of Imagining the Internet
>>
>> www.imaginingtheinternet.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Associate Professor of Communications
>>
>> Director of Internet Projects
>>
>> School of Communications
>>
>> Elon University
>>
>> andersj at elon.edu
>>
>> (336) 278-5733 (o)
>>
>>
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