[governance] Criterion for charter voting

[shaila mistry]

Hi All
Establishing eligibility to vote based on whether one has voted the prior 
election is in general a good way to acknowledge membership  and also measure 
involvement and awareness of of the work of this forum . However I would point 
out that I too could not vote one year and was left out of the election the 
subsequent occasion, despite  being I am a long standing involved member of this 
group . 


Perhaps to protect against this we can have an annual acknowledgment of 
membership at an agreed time post  for individuals  to weigh in as continuing 
members.  For example we could do this 6 months before the election or at the 
beginning of the year or some such fixed time .

Sorry for the late post. I am on Pacific time and this is the best opportunity I 
have to weigh in
My two cents worth !
It was good to see all of you in Vilnius!
Shaila 


 
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From: Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com>

To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>
Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 6:32:10 AM
Subject: Re: [governance] Criterion for charter voting

 I don't know if I should weigh in, being       co-coordinator, but not running 
the election, but this is exactly       what I think: first I voted in the 
election, then I voted on the       charter.

On 9/29/2010 8:28 AM, Avri Doria wrote: 
Hi,  Interesting point.  Having just voted in an election, one could argue that 
the conditions of the charter had been met.  Interesting cascade.  And on the 
spirit, this happened so quickly, within the two month margin for voting on an 
election, we can be confident no one joined the mailing list to mess with the 
charter.  So we might have both letter and spirit.  a.   On 29 Sep 2010, at 
08:40, Paul Lehto wrote:  

>On 9/29/10, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote: 
>>Paul, at this point the issue is not about one view against another, but the 
>>letter of the charter of the IGC, which clearly has a different eligibility 
>>criterion for voting in a charter amendment than any other voting. It states 
>>that     "In amending the charter, everyone who voted in the previous    
>>election will be deemed a member for amending the charter." 
>>
>I understand that's the language.  But in order to conclude that someone's vote 
>is taken away, the language must be clear and unequivocal.  Here, those who 
>voted in the previous election are "deemed" members - it's automatic so to 
>speak.  There is no express preclusion of others who can establish membership 
>through means not automatic in nature.  Thank you Parminder for your courtesy 
>and respect regarding me and the letter and spirit of the law.  The letter and 
>the spirit are why I interpret it in the manner above, one should greatly 
>hesitate and put the burden of specificity on an interpretation that would 
>result in the denial of a voting right.  If a Charter intended for a more 
>restricted class of Charter voters, it would typically (at least if well 
>drafted) state at the end of the sentence above something like "and no others 
>shall be deemed qualified voters by any means for the purpose of amending the 
>Charter."  --  Paul R Lehto, J.D. P.O. Box 1 Ishpeming, MI  49849 
>lehto.paul at gmail.com 906-204-2334 
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