[governance] International Internet Treaty proposed by

Wed Sep 22 15:37:01 EDT 2010

Meryem,
I hear about discussions and flames on cross border data flows for so 
long (30+ years) that I am not worried about the world capacity to 
discuss any treaty before an eternity. Actually until we have some 
human centered ground for this, i.e. a 31st human right articles 
about everyone's right to a neutral, protected and freely governed 
and administered digital empowerment. The difficulty is that the 
technology is just arriving now to the corresponding development.
jfc

At 11:19 22/09/2010, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>Le 22 sept. 10 à 09:08, CW Mail a écrit :
>
>>Louis: Yes. Workshop #60. Presented by Council of Europe. The
>>transcript is published. (I went to a different workshop that day)
>>I guess that someone on this list can provide additional information.
>>
>>CW
>>
>>On 22 Sep 2010, at 04:34, Louis Pouzin wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:14:33 -0700, Sylvia Caras  wrote:
>>>>http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/9/20/international-internet-treaty- 
>>>>proposed-europe/
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Was this proposal announced or presented in an IGF session in
>>>Vilnius ? by whom ?
>
>Yes, but, for reasons that are beyond my knowledge and understanding,
>the news article gives it far higher status than it currently has.
>And calling it an "Internet Treaty" is, well, somewhat anticipating,
>to say the least.
>
>This is a first document proposed by an ad hoc group of individual
>experts nominated by the CoE to form an "Ad Hoc Advisory Group". And
>this document - as well as the process - raises a lot of concerns and
>still needs a lot of discussion.
>More information about the group is at:
>http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/media/MC-S-CI/ 
>default_en.asp (MC-S-CI)
>NB. EDRI (European Digital Rights) is an observer to this group, that
>I'm representing myself. Unfortunately, due to personal reasons, I
>missed the first and only formal group meeting on March 1-2 2010, and
>EDRI was not invited to the consultation meeting on October 2009,
>prior to the formal setting up of the group. As a matter of fact,
>EDRI raised strong, though oral, concerns to CoE on the process, and
>thus asked for an observer status to this group.
>
>BTW, EDRI has similar concerns regarding another group, which deals
>with "the protection of neighbouring rights of broadcasting
>organisations" (MC-S-NR, http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/ 
>media/MC-S-NR/default_en.asp). In this case, EDRI was present at its
>first consultation meeting, however, this is due to the fact that the
>consultation has started later (January 2010). EDRI has now been
>granted an observer status to this group too, but the group is not
>formed, and thus has not formally started yet, waiting for the
>European Commission mandate to work on this issue (the CoE wont start
>without an EC representative to the group). This is a highly
>politically sensitive issue.
>
>Finally, EDRI has an observer status to a third group, on Human
>Rights in New Media 
>(http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/media/ 
>MC-NM/default_en.asp). In this case, we fully participate, and find
>this group fully legitimate. The group is made up of governments
>representatives, together with observers from different NGOs and
>professional associations, as well as other institutional bodies
>(like the European Commission and other CoE bodies) and States not
>members of, but observers to the CoE (well, it's mainly the Vatican,
>oooops the Holy Seat, whose representative remains almost silent,
>though probably blessing our work;))
>
>This group, called MC-NM in CoE jargon, is the one drafting texts
>such as CoE Recommendations. It is the continuation of former Group
>on Human Rights in the Information Society (MC-S-IS, http:// 
>www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/media/MC-S-IS/default_en.asp).
>There are no finalized drafts from the MC-NM group yet, since it
>started its work at the end of last year, but there is work in
>progress on very timely issues, tackling e.g. the protection of human
>rights with regards to search engines on the one hand and to social
>networks on the other hand. The group is also discussing a
>Declaration on network neutrality.
>I have to acknowledge that observers have been actually granted full
>participation to MC-S-IS and now to MC-NM, and are actually heard
>most of the time (except when there is a strong opposition from gov
>representatives, who remain the decision makers in the group and,
>consequently, the ones accountable for its results).
>
>Next MC-NM meeting, where I'm going to participate, will be held
>early next week. EDRI newsletter regularly reports on these meetings
>and other CoE activities (http://www.edri.org/edrigram):
>
>- EDRI report on 2nd MC-NM meeting ('New Media, Search Engines And
>Network Neutrality On 2010 CoE Agenda', 7 April 2010)
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number8.7/coe-new-media-working-group
>- Opinion on 9th  MC-S-IS meeting developments  ('ENDitorial: CoE -
>The Good, the Bad and the Ugly', 9 April 2008)
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number6.7/coe-good-bad-ugly
>- Opinion on 8th MC-S-IS meeting developments ('Enditorial: Coe -
>Content Regulation: Break On Through; Ipr: It's Tricky', 21 November
>2007)
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.22/coe-content-regulation
>- Sign Up Edri Statement On Coe Recommendation - Campaign Update (24
>October 2007)
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.20/campaign-edri-coe-recommendation
>- EDRI Statement And Call For Action On New CoE Rec. Failing To
>Uphold FoE (10 October, 2007):
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.19/call-action-foe-rec
>- Opinion on developments on CoE Cybercrime Convention ('Enditorial:
>The 2001 Coe Cybercrime Conv. More Dangerous Than Ever', 20 June, 2007)
>- EDRI report on European regional meeting on the "Ethical dimensions
>of the information society" organized by the French Commission for
>UNESCO in cooperation with UNESCO and the Council of Europe ('Human
>Rights in the Information Society - rediscover the proportionality',
>26.09.2007)
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.18/human-rights-is
>- EDRI report on 7th MC-S-IS meeting ('CoE to address the impact of
>technical measures on human rights', 12.04.2007):
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5.7/coe-human-rights
>- EDRI report on 5th MC-S-IS meeting ('News on CoE activities on
>Human Rights in the Information Society', 05.07.2006)
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number4.13/hrinfosoc
>- EDRI report on 4th MC-S-IS meeting ('CoE works on new instrument on
>children empowerment on the net', 15.03.2006):
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number4.5/coe
>- EDRI report on 2nd MC-S-IS meeting and CoE Pan-European Forum
>('Human Rights In The Information Society On CoE Agenda', 21.09.2005):
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number3.19/CoE
>- EDRI gets observer status to MC-S-IS group ('EDRI Granted Observer
>Status In CoE HR Group', 29.06.2005):
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number3.13/EDRI
>- EDRI comments on CAHSI Document ('Council Of Europe Declaration On
>Human Rights And Internet', 24.05.2005):
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number3.10/CoE
>- EDRI report on 2nd meeting of the Multidisciplinary Ad-hoc
>Committee of Experts on the Information Society (CAHSI) ('Council Of
>Europe Draft Statement On Human Rights And Internet', 20.04.2005)
>http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number3.8/CoE
>
>Best,
>Meryem Marzouki
>
>--
>Meryem Marzouki - Paris, France
>Email: meryem at marzouki.info
>Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr
>IRIS (Imaginons un réseau Internet solidaire) - www.iris.sgdg.org
>EDRI (European Digital Rights) - www.edri.org
>
>
>
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