[governance] International Internet Treaty proposed by Europe

[George Sadowsky]

Thanks, Bill,

I agree with Bill's comments.  I was a discussant 
at that workshop, and I didn't think that the 
material presented by Rolf was worth significant 
discussion at the time.  In fact, when word of 
such a treaty was first posted on this list, I 
did not even associate it with the workshop in 
which I participated.  This event has been blown 
out of proportion.

George

At 9:11 AM +0200 9/22/10, William Drake wrote:
>Still more confused and clueless reportage on IGŠ.
>
>The author gets hold of a concept paper from a 
>Vilnius workshop in which Wolfgang, Rolf and a 
>few other people put forward for discussion some 
>guiding principles concerning cross-border flows 
>and mutual obligations between states they hope 
>could someday fit into a possible COE convention 
>(FWIW, having moderated the ws and been part of 
>the dialogue around this for awhile, IMHO this 
>seems unlikely to go anywhere without 
>significant changes, and maybe not even then). 
>Then he declares the paper is a "draft treaty" 
>that has been "proposed by Europe."  Then he 
>proceeds to misconstrue what the thing would do 
>and concludes it "will effectively create a 
>world government of the Internet." These points 
>he supports with extended quotes of other people 
>he ran into Vilnius who were actually talking 
>about entirely different matters...Europe, 
>states, the Internet, regulationŠit's all the 
>same thing, I guess.
>
>Should get him a lot of Google hits though, 
>which presumably will be welcome to a freelance 
>journalist.  "As long as they spell my name 
>rightŠ"
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>On Sep 22, 2010, at 4:59 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote:
>
>>  Don't know about Vilnius.
>>
>>  Several of us were talking about a an Internet 
>>treaty or framework convention at earlier IGF's 
>>and on this list.
>>
>>  But we were told that was impossibly 
>>radical/might upset some of the powers that be.
>>  ________________________________________
>>  From: Louis Pouzin [pouzin at well.com]
>>  Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:34 PM
>>  To: IGF Governance
>>  Subject: [governance] International Internet Treaty proposed by Europe
>>
>>  On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:14:33 -0700, Sylvia Caras  wrote:
>>> 
>>>http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/9/20/international-internet-treaty-proposed-europe/
>>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  Was this proposal announced or presented in an 
>>IGF session in Vilnius ? by whom ?
>>
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