[governance] FW: Blogpost: Open Data: Empowering the
JFC Morfin
jefsey at jefsey.com
Thu Sep 9 19:23:30 EDT 2010
At 14:11 09/09/2010, McTim wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:47 PM, jefsey <jefsey at jefsey.com> wrote:
>Why would Google want this? or are you talking about the names n
>numbers? Why would Google want that? Far too much headache for far
>too little ROI IMHO. They make Billions per quarter, DNS isn't
>"profitable" compared to search,etc that Google does.
Tim,
Sorry, but this calls for some explanations that you probably already
know, but that others may not. I will try to be as concise as I can.
The current Internet is about English ASCII information dissemination
(passive content) with an evolution towards UTF8. The equilibrium
that we currently have will have to adapt to a full UTF8 support
(naming and content) of the linguistic diversity (which is also
economic diversity). Every information provider and naming
administrator has a need, therefore, to adapt to IDNA2008 and multilingualism.
1. ICANN
ICANN's job is to manage a small Excel table. They have always had to
be good enough to make believe that this depended on complex
unnecessary contracts to create and manage scarcities (TLDs, IPv4).
They have intelligently started first taking control of the IANA
(focal point), then in launching the TLD (linguistic groups of
servers) saturation proposition, and in pursuing its make believe "I
am the center of the world" permanent strategy with DNSSEC.
At the same time, they made a mistake. To start Fast Track quickly
enough, they privileged IDNccTLDs over IDNgTLD projects. It is in
this way that they made a lot of money to bepotentially available,
ready to support any innovation that bypasses their blocking
"monopoly". They also made it impossible for local/cultural
non-profit organizations to plan a TLD. This wqy they opposed the
planned grassroots Multilinc and Projet.FRA tests.
2. GOOGLE
The Unicode consortium (mainly IBM, M$, Apple, Oracle, Yahoo!, and
Google - you could initially read this list in decreasing order, but
now in increasing order) has the internationalization strategy.
2.1. What is internationalization?
With the world's globalization, there is an accentuated dichotomy
between norms and standards. Until now, they have gone together as
US, French, European, etc. norms/standards, the norms being a concept
for the description of the local normality and the standard a concept
of what we want to make with this normality locally. Now, the norms
tend to become the global normality, and international standards
infiltration is the way to conquer foreign markets with the standards
of national industries. Internationalization (of national standards)
is WW III.
Until now, war was to plundering other countries to resolve sovereign
debt problems. Today, this is no longer possible when the wealth of a
country is its stable just-in-time production and services and debts
are interrelated. Therefore, what countries look for is a higher
growth ratio for their exports than for their debts so that they are
then considered as AAA++. The same is true for leading industries
(e.g. Google).
Standardization is a powerful and stable way to obtain this by
forcing other countries to run their just-in-time processes with
nationally compatible solutions and not overly innovative [MHL1]
products. This is why Mark Davis' (President, Unicode)
"globalization" is a key element in the Unicode consortium
industrials growth as well as USA's growth (FYI globalization =
internationalization of the medium + localization of the ends +
filtering of the languages - on the Internet and in the information centers).
2.2. Natural strategy
First, IMHOthere isn't a finalized strategy offered by anyone.
However, there are natural trends and common sense attitudes. This is
either because people saw, see, or shall eventually see that things
fit better for them in one way more than another.
The Internet is the internationalization's main medium: they must
keep some control of it. The IANA is its information core and RFCs
are its guidelines. However, the IANA's exposure makes it unadvisable
to visibly control it. Therefore, the Members of the Unicode
consortium are/should be happy:
1) That ICANN is believed to be the one in charge (IETF actually is of most)
2) They have overloaded the IANA with the language tables (RFC 4645)
3) Which may require an IANA computer response that only Google could
sustain (they openly suggested that they could provide the machines)
should these tables become used in the present state of Mark Davis' RFCs (5646)
4) i.e. permitting traffic and search service control on a cultural
(hence economic) basis - network neutrality is nothing vs. service neutrality.
5) They control the code of Mark Davis' ICU routines, which in turn
control that use: they are universally deployed in protocols and
languages to interoperate with Unicode information.
De facto, through the IANA, the Internet can be DoS-ed by Mark Davis.
Just one line added to the ICU code, to update local user linguistic
tables on a regular basis, and the IANA would dump 90% of its content
into each user with a new ICU. This would represent a progressive (as
programs get updated) network overload. All the same, Google + Public
DNS can represent the largest resolution system. Yet it has to be
protected from networked alternative resolution habits, the DDDS
possible evolution (extension of the DNS type of database to other
issues) and ISO 11179 metadata registry norms.
Mark Davis, was with Apple, then IBM, and now Google, as is the case
of Harald Alvestrand, former IETF Chair, Member of the Unicode Board,
Member of the ICANN board and their Internet, VP, Vint Cerf, founder
of ISOC and Chair of the IETF WG/IDNABIS, which had to produce IDNA2008.
3. Internet Users
In all of this, the milked users have never been considered, except
through "the Internet for all" slogan, user's purse centric doctrine,
and democratic liberty campaigns to "free" them from their national
protections. The world information system is planned to be
centralized by Google. With the current IANA and DNS, this was in
fact possible.
This has changed this year, however, with the adoption of RFC 5890's
suites documenting IDNA2008. For various reasons, IDNA was to be
separated from Unicode (including the changes in namespace due to new
Unicode releases). This was a strategic thread for Unicode leading
members. Maybe that is why the WG/IDNABIS mailing list belonged to
Harald Alvestrand, Mark Davis was the only one protesting at the end,
and Vint Cerf was the Chair. Everything was tightly locked.
The reality is that they had bet on the wrong horse: Unicode cannot
fulfill the job. The reason why that is the case is that Unicode is a
typographic solution, for scripts. The need is for an
orthotypographic solution, for languages. The typical trouble is the
French (Latin) majuscules and their needed support by Projet.FRA.
Because "Etat.fra" means "State" and "état.fra" means "status".
Equivalent issues exist in every script. French, and to a lesser
extent German, Greek, Iranian, Tamil, etc., people attended the WG
and a full Arabic mailing list watched closely.
Unicode has no way to support the "majuscule" or other
orthotypographic metadata information. Therefore, there would be no
way to support the Intersem (semiotics and semantics) and the
semantic addressing system (SAS) through the DNS, that is, if IDNA is
controlled from within the Internet by a unique RFC for all kind of
uses by the linguistic diversity. This is why there was a need for a
multi-layer DNS encapsulation that is specified on the user side.
This is what I initially proposed and that they had hoped that they
could avoid.
The result is what IAB/IETF wished for and what French/Latin language
and many other languages need: no character mapping within the
Internet, hence no interference by RFCs and IANA, and hence by paying
ISOC platinum/golden sponsors in languages and cultures. This means
that control of cultural expression in coherence with search engines
(as prepared by Mark Davis' RFCs) had to be abandoned by Vint Cerf.
Google may have to quote domain names that they do not know how to
resolve without also having to respect local, cultural, national
naming standards and UTF8 resolution processes. Men are not Google peripherals.
A patch was found that permitted a consensus to be reached: the
necessary preparation (and mapping) of UTF8 entries will be made on
the user side. This was not a big practical issue for Unicode since
their Members already distribute users' applications and libraries
all over the place. Moreover, Google Public DNS received publicity at
that time: the size of Google's own DNS service is such that they can
become a de facto operational reference. Example: If they introduce
".google" (or any other TLD) they will go through; Vint Cerf has
already played that game when he adopted a new ".biz" against the
existing one.
However, IDNA2008 cannot work (except in some default situations) in
the way most believe it can, i.e. as documented by the IDNA concepts.
IDNA2003 was specified on the Internet and on the user's side. There
is a major need to standardize IDNA2008 on the user's side as well,
with a non-IDNA (IDN in application) user side achietcture. IAB has
documented a few good reasons as to why that is in a soon to be published RFC.
The only existing proposition is ML-DNS. As a precaution, I asked
everyone(WG, AD, IESG, and IAB) if they wanted to take over its
investigation and documentation. I am now left with the hot potatoes.
IAB will only further discuss the problem...
4. Present situation
ICANN owns the IANA and the root system. Google has the power to
influence the IANA and the root file and replace the root system in
many people's lives. IUsers do not need any of them, and the
possibilities open to them are very large. However, there is a need
for experimentation first (what we investigate with an Intertest
project using the Internet as its own test-bed (as proposed by ICANN
in its ICP-3 document).
Everyone wants stability + something contradictory with the others.
ICANN wants to retain control of naming; Google wants to retain
control of information processing. IUsers object to control except
for in identificative naming (vs. designative and appellative), but
they would like for it to be nationally controlled.
jfc
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