[governance] ITU vs. ICANN

[Adam Peake]

>adam, the RIRs have been pushing IPv6 out thier doors for a decade
>now, so delays in the transition cant really be laid at their feet.
>They are simply registries, they dont have omniscient abilities to get
>folk to do something that they dont seem to want to do. BTW, the
>outreach started nearly a decade ago as well, and judging by the
>number of government reps at ARIN 26 who took part in the decision
>making processes as reps of govt, it seems to be bearing fruit.



McTim, Hi.

<https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/ARIN-XXVI/attendees.html> 
am I looking in the wrong place?

Adam



>Rgds,
>McTim
>
>On 10/16/10, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>>  On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 14.10.2010 16:51, John Curran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Karl Auerbach wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  It has long been my sense that one of the ways we can improve our
>>>>>  approach to internet governance is to divide our goals so that we can
>>>>>  shrink
>>>>>  wrap a narrowly tailored, tightly defined body of governance around each
>>>>>  one
>>>>>  of those goals.  We would find, I assert, that in many cases that the
>>>>>  "governance" of an issue would be largely a clerical matter that rarely,
>>>>>  if
>>>>>  ever would cause debate or concern - consider for instance most of the
>>>>>  protocol parameter assignments made by IANA.  There would, of course, be
>>>>>  a
>>>>>  few nuggets, such as TLD policy, that would be real hard to handle; but
>>>>>  they
>>>>>  would be easier to handle then the kind of generalized, expansive
>>>>>  policymaking that has so bedeviled ICANN.
>>>>
>>>>  100% agreement here. Having a group focused on fairly narrow subject
>>>>  area encourages discussion of the actual issues (both pro&  con) of
>>>>  proposed policy, which in turns empowers all voices which can add
>>>>  to the deliberations and help the group reach informed consensus.
>>>>
>>>>  /John
>>>
>>>  As Karl mentions, the RIR approach does not work in all policy areas. The
>>>  DNS, for example, attracts very diverse and antagonistic interests. While
>>>  the RIRs have every reason to be happy that there "narrow subject area"
>>>  approach works out for the address space, I don't think one can generalize
>>>  this as a model for all IG related areas.
>>>
>>
>>  I think it's interesting we think so highly of the RIR process (I do,
>>  so this isn't intended as particular criticism) when IPv4/v6
>>  transition is such an enormous threat, some governments are obviously
>>  still extremely wary of the of the RIR model, and the RIRs are
>>  spending so much energy on outreach to govt., outreach that's still
>>  probably too little and too late.
>>
>>  Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>>  jeanette
>>>>
>>>>
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>McTim
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>route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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