[governance] ITU vs. ICANN

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Sat Oct 16 08:43:01 EDT 2010


adam, the RIRs have been pushing IPv6 out thier doors for a decade
now, so delays in the transition cant really be laid at their feet.
They are simply registries, they dont have omniscient abilities to get
folk to do something that they dont seem to want to do. BTW, the
outreach started nearly a decade ago as well, and judging by the
number of government reps at ARIN 26 who took part in the decision
making processes as reps of govt, it seems to be bearing fruit. Rgds,
McTim

On 10/16/10, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 14.10.2010 16:51, John Curran wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Karl Auerbach wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It has long been my sense that one of the ways we can improve our
>>>> approach to internet governance is to divide our goals so that we can
>>>> shrink
>>>> wrap a narrowly tailored, tightly defined body of governance around each
>>>> one
>>>> of those goals.  We would find, I assert, that in many cases that the
>>>> "governance" of an issue would be largely a clerical matter that rarely,
>>>> if
>>>> ever would cause debate or concern - consider for instance most of the
>>>> protocol parameter assignments made by IANA.  There would, of course, be
>>>> a
>>>> few nuggets, such as TLD policy, that would be real hard to handle; but
>>>> they
>>>> would be easier to handle then the kind of generalized, expansive
>>>> policymaking that has so bedeviled ICANN.
>>>
>>> 100% agreement here. Having a group focused on fairly narrow subject
>>> area encourages discussion of the actual issues (both pro&  con) of
>>> proposed policy, which in turns empowers all voices which can add
>>> to the deliberations and help the group reach informed consensus.
>>>
>>> /John
>>
>> As Karl mentions, the RIR approach does not work in all policy areas. The
>> DNS, for example, attracts very diverse and antagonistic interests. While
>> the RIRs have every reason to be happy that there "narrow subject area"
>> approach works out for the address space, I don't think one can generalize
>> this as a model for all IG related areas.
>>
>
> I think it's interesting we think so highly of the RIR process (I do,
> so this isn't intended as particular criticism) when IPv4/v6
> transition is such an enormous threat, some governments are obviously
> still extremely wary of the of the RIR model, and the RIRs are
> spending so much energy on outreach to govt., outreach that's still
> probably too little and too late.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>> jeanette
>>>
>>>
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