[governance] Criterion for charter voting

[Michael Gurstein]

I think more than a bit of "outreach" is required... It needs to be part of
a worked through strategy and broader agreed upon initiative... Developing a
paper in (nuanced) response to the BB Commission report might be one way to
start.

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:22 AM
To: IGC
Subject: Re: [governance] Criterion for charter voting


hi,

I know there is a stream of new subscribers, and occasionally a new voice.

i think we should have more outreach and i think it would be great if
someone organized it.

maybe when you come back from your adventure.

cheers

a.


On 29 Sep 2010, at 18:58, Michael Gurstein wrote:

> 
> I think what I mean is obvious especially since I've been saying more 
> or less the same thing for years... Yes, I think that there should be 
> a deliberate plan/program of engagement with the broader civil society 
> and particularly those elements of civil society who are active around 
> ICTs, social justice and the Internet globally--and there are 
> multitudes.  The folks active in the HR caucus for example seem to 
> have managed to do something of this reasonably successfully at least 
> as I have been observing them from a distance.
> 
> Personally, I go in and out of direct involvements which would be of 
> interest to or interested in IG issues depending on a variety of 
> personal and other circumstances... At the moment I could certainly 
> engage with sympathetic folks in Canada and and to a lesser extent in 
> various other parts of the world where I happen to be working/doing 
> research etc. but the problem is that to my mind we (IGC) have allowed 
> ourselves to accept a way too narrow definition of what IG means, 
> rather narrower I would say than even the IGF as a whole is now coming 
> to accept and certainly narrower than would be of interest to many of 
> those who would (and should) be our allies and compadres.
> 
> Every year about this time I write the same thing and every year folks 
> move on around "the bad relay point/me" but from what I can see (and 
> again from a
> distance) not having the means or the passion to get myself to Vilnius,
the
> IGC is, if anything, dwindling as older folks drift away and not a lot of
> younger folks are recruited and certainly no great tranches of broader
civil
> society are engaged with.
> 
> But I'm off on a bit of a personal adventure for the next while and 
> will have only limited time to engage in a debate on these issues if 
> any should result from these rather gnarly remarks.
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:04 PM
> To: IGC
> Subject: Re: [governance] Criterion for charter voting
> 
> 
> 
> and why do you mean by this?
> 
> is there some activity you think the group should be engaged in, that 
> it is not?
> have you been doing outreach bringing in new people?
> 
> a.
> 
> On 29 Sep 2010, at 16:25, Michael Gurstein wrote:
> 
>> I don't mean to be curmudgeonly but I really would have preferred to
>> see some of the energy and creativity that is going into ensuring the
> probity of the electoral system of this several handfuls of people 
> most of whom know each other by sight over almost a decade, into 
> broadening and deepening the group so that it has some broader 
> legitimacy (and not just
> legalistically) as a voice for civil society in these most significant
> areas.
>> 
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