[governance] It's Time to Stop ICANN's Top-Level Domain (TLD)

[Milton L Mueller]

Oops, I see that Olivier made my point a day ago.
The point about not being dependent on your isp is also important.

From: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond [mailto:ocl at gih.com]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:06 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter
Cc: Rafik Dammak
Subject: Re: [governance] It's Time to Stop ICANN's Top-Level Domain (TLD)

Hello Ian,

since the domain name system,in your view is solely about resource discovery, I suggest you give up ianpeter.com altogether and move your email to gmail, whilst hosting your Web site under a generic domain.
Only troubles are:
1. I won't know how to find your Web site or how to email you. (except if you manage to position yourself well with search engines and there's an art to that - pay more, get more)
2. if you start becoming too controversial for your ISPs, you might vanish from the Internet altogether. DItto if your ISP is purchased by someone else. You'll just be forced to change email address, change web address... you get the point.

Kind regards,

Olivier

Le 05/11/2010 21:42, Ian Peter a écrit :
Hi Rafik,

Resource discovery is , simply, "being able to find things" on the Internet.

The original reason for having domain names was that it was thought (correctly) that it would be easier to remember the name of a site than the IP number of the site (eg easier to remember berkeley.edu than 199.133.223.253). Thus the domain name system was born and a mechanism was needed to map all internet addressable numbers to appropriate names.

These days the domain name is becoming less and less relevant for this task. People use search engines, directories and apps rather than directly using names to find things. The awkwardness of the domain name system in providing sensible resource discovery with the internet the size it is now (let alone what is to come) has led a lot of people to look at other ways to do this.

Ian Peter

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From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 05:05:05 +0900
To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
Cc: Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] It's Time to Stop ICANN's Top-Level Domain (TLD)

Hi Ian,

you mentioned many times resource discovery, can you please clarify what you mean by it? I am not sure that everybody here share the same definition.

Rafik

2010/11/6 Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
Avri wrote


>  It is all well and
> good that you have a preference for maintaining the current restricted
> incumbent market,


Not at all, and IDNs are a case in point where expansion makes sense for as
long as domain names maintain usefulness - but any attachment of exorbitant
fees to IDNs to allow them to be established would be ridiculous.

I'm simply pointing out, as others are, that endless expansion of domain
name suffixes does nothing to aid resource discovery or improve internet
governance.





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