[governance] ICANN head warns against putting Internet addresses

Carlos A. Afonso ca at cafonso.ca
Sat May 29 14:09:04 EDT 2010


Curious indeed. Everton is right. As to Rod, I think he is being ill- 
advised to say the least. Does he really know *where* he is, for  
crying out loud?

--c.a.

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On 29/05/2010, at 14:40, Everton Lucero <everton.mre at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder from whom the Reuters reporter heard that "countries such as
> Iran and Brazil..." believe ICANN should cede its authority to the UN.
> As far as Brazil is concerned, that is total misinformation, to say
> the least. I am certain  Mr. Beckstrom would have never said that
> nonsensical phrase.
> Perhaps Wolfgang is right: we are back at pre-WSIS times. But things
> (and countries' views) have gone a long way since then. Need to keep
> up!
> Everton
>
>
> 2010/5/29 McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>:
>> HI Ian,
>>
>> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Ian Peter  
>> <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure whether Rod Beckstrom said ICANN was nimble or not -  
>>> didn't he
>>> just say that it would be less nimble under UN control? (that is a
>>> reasonable assumption..)
>>
>> tis
>>
>>>
>>> I do not think ICANN could be described as nimble by anyone in its  
>>> current
>>> state, but it is a good aspiration. To me, its an incredibly bloated
>>> organisation currently. Much of that is because of the lack of  
>>> appropriate
>>> internet governance structures and ICANN becoming the default home  
>>> for lots
>>> of things it shouldn't be involved in.
>>
>>
>> I think that much of the growth of the staff and supporting  
>> structures
>> (that you call "bloat") is a direct result of ICANN listening to its
>> critics who have been demanding things like IDNs and new g(and
>> geo)TLDs and of course from WSIS and the IGF.  ICANN (and the other
>> orgs involved in actual IG work) have all increased their staff as a
>> result of EC.
>>
>> Next week, for example, at the AfNOG/AfriNIC meeting in Kigali, we  
>> are
>> having a half day AfGWG (AfriNIC Government Working Group) Roundtable
>> Meeting.  A significant amount of staff time has gone into this "non
>> core business effort (it's not the first meeting of it's kind) and
>> AfriNIC has had to hire several new Communications types to do this
>> sort of work.
>>
>>
>> I find it highly ironic that while the folk who are willingly  doing
>> EC because of the Tunis Agenda have those efforts ignored by many on
>> this list as well having their efforts called "bloat" by others.
>>
>> I guess it falls into the category of "be careful what you wish for".
>> If you want new gTLDs, IDNs and EC, then you have to expect that  
>> their
>> will be ppl hired to suport those efforts.
>>
>> Y'all can't have it both ways, why you try is beyond me.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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