[governance] CSTD

[William Drake]

Parminder

On May 24, 2010, at 12:14 PM, parminder wrote:

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> While I have some clarifying comments on Anriette's detailed report (thanks for it) and subsequent remarks on it by others,  it may be better to take some specific example and build our discussion around it. Bill's comments provides us one such example, that of OECD, as the kind of forums which work and with which we should engage rather than wasting our energies on something as dangerous and elusive as EC :) .

Sigh...I of course did not say we shouldn't be unconcerned with EC, but rather that the OECD experience indicates that in some cases it's possible to open up actually existing processes.  

>> And if the IGF is to them principally a bargaining chit to use on other chessboards and not someplace they want to really engage in multistakeholder decision making, one has to wonder whether trying to turn it into a decision making body isn't a bit chimeric and a poor use of scarce CS energies.  I'd rather see us pushing to open up to participation and accountability those bodies that they do take seriously and want to use for decision making.  It can be done, sometimes...look at the OECD, a somewhat underrated achievement.  This is why I thought we should be objecting more to the distorted reading of EC as pure intergovernmentalism with the ITU dedicated group held up as exhibit A, despite TAIS 71's clear statement that EC is to be MS.
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> First of all, obviously we from the developing countries cannot be looking up to OECD Internet policy related mechanisms as our deliverance. In fact, OECD's Internet policy related activities rather than being the solution may be a big part of the problem for developing countries. I have said this so many times that it wont harm saying it once more -  OECD's policies would soon become the default global norms, and we from the developing countries are not at all happy to be subject to norms and policies that are developed without our full democratic participation.

I of course did not say that people from developing countries should look to OECD Internet policy related mechanisms for deliverance.  And I have long made the point in writing, talks etc that deals worked out at that level can and do set de facto global rules.
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> I fail to understand why this lack of global democracy does not violate some people's sense of fairness and justice as does the perceived lack of multistakeholderism (MSism) ins yet-to-be global forums for global Internet policies does. Can anyone provide me an answer to that.
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> But let us not be distracted. My principal point here is that if OECD's model of developing Internet related policies, with its effectiveness and its structures of stakeholder participation, is seen as exemplary, why dont we propose the same model but including all countries.
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> I have never heard of any such a proposal.

This was my original proposal for a new forum made at the UNICT TF global forum in NYC in March 2004, later published in Don MacLean's edited book.

> But it is never too late. Are we all here willing to propose a new global Internet policy forum modeled exactly on OECD's Internet related policy making processes, but with equal participation of all countries, and with exactly the same stakeholder participation model.
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> That looks to me as a perfect enhanced cooperation model to suggest. Bill, what do you say. 
> What is good for OECD countries, why shouldnt it be good for all countries together!

I long favored this, although developments since have led me to wonder, per Anriette and Jeanette, whether it could have a chance of being successful, much less agreed to.  Still, as an effort to think through the "so what do we want" question,  it's probably worth considering as a baseline model.
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> Although I personally think it should be possible to suggest an even more participative EC model than the present OECD model,  if we appear to be so happy with the OECD model lets go with it. I am sure developing countries can be brought around. Lets float the idea and see what actors speak against it, and which for. And you would get the real picture of where we really stand today vis a vis global Internet policy regimes, or the absence of them.
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> I  only know broadly about the OECD Internet policies related model. Others who know more can please elaborate - how it works, how it is structured for participation etc. Lets take it as a base for developing a 'enhanced cooperation'  model for global Internet policy making and propose it to all stakeholders. This is quite the time for such a proposal to be made.
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> I mean to present the above proposal rather seriously. And I hope others in this discussion do respond to it.
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> Parminder

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