[governance] Strangeness in the IGF programme

Lee W McKnight lmcknigh at syr.edu
Wed Mar 3 13:14:51 EST 2010


To be clear, topic 15 years ago was also emergency communication across the Internet.

I admit we did not figure it all out back then in the dark ages.
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From: Lee W McKnight [lmcknigh at syr.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:10 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Jeanette Hofmann; Katitza Rodriguez
Cc: Milton L Mueller; Roland Perry
Subject: RE: [governance] Strangeness in the IGF programme

re global governance and cs angles on emergency comm + IGF

1st re cs:

umm you ever notice that when disasters occur a bunch of cs organizations jump in to help?

2nd re global:

you ever notice that if eg a Sec State Clinton wanted to drop off comm gear to help Chile - like she did yesterday-  it would nice to know the gear would work in Chile, alongside whatever they already have?

Maybe that kind of thing would be easier in emergenices with a little more global coordination.

I was involved 15 years ago when -gasp- ITU was looking into this. Maybe they figured it all out by now; or not.

Great topic for IGF, tangible benefits of discussing in IGF context might be pointed to  hopefully before long.

If, gasp again - those multistakeholders can get along ; ).

Lee




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From: Jeanette Hofmann [jeanette at wzb.eu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:36 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Katitza Rodriguez
Cc: Milton L Mueller; Roland Perry
Subject: Re: [governance] Strangeness in the IGF programme

The point made was that there are various options in recreating a
destroyed infrastructure and that the choice made has strong regulatory
implications. The example was Haiti. Others said that, despite all good
intensions, not enough precautions are taken to limit the dammage of
catastrophes. In some countries, it is against the law to store copies
of vital data outside the country, which may prevent useful precautions.

These were some of the points made to support this topic.

jeanette

Katitza Rodriguez wrote:
> As far as I remember this discussion was focus on examples like the one
> in haiti. Not sure which is the link with IG.
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
>>>> "Maintaining Internet services in situations of disaster and crisis"
>>>> - a good topic for network operators but what's the CIR angle and
>>>> how is global governance involved?
>>>
>>> There's a whole world out there that calls itself "Critical [National]
>>> Infrastructure" and is all about governments having enough levers to
>>> pull in a time a time of natural (or un-natural) disaster to instruct
>>> operators to do things "in the National Interest" that they would not
>>> normally feel obliged to - as a result of contractual or other
>>> considerations.
>>
>> Yes, indeed there is. Linking IG to nationalistic conceptions of
>> critical infrastructure is all about assertions of control by states.
>> You have just demonstrated the value of inquiring into what kind of
>> thinking went into these topical categories.
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