[governance] Openess at ApNic

Eric Dierker cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jan 23 11:41:31 EST 2010


McTim,
 
I think this is important.  I think openess and transparency and inclusivenss are important.
Perhaps I am wrong.  Clearly you are in a better position to judge and explain. So I look forward to learning what I am ignorant of.
 
Sometimes the best role of governance is to simply open up lines of communication. Obviously education and knowledge are paramount to understanding. During my, lack of, work in Internet Governance I have seen time and time again the divide between socio-polywogs and technotechnicrats. I have seen more fledgling bridges between the two burned than completed.
 
Could you please provide some links that you think would be helpful for me in learning about how ApNic is inclusive and does bridge this gap.  "How to", criteria and avenues for involvement would be most helpful. I find most good learning is from doing.
 
I look forward to learning and shedding some light on this subject that you point out my ignorance in.
 
Your anticipated cooperation is greatly appreciated.
 
Eric

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:


From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Eric Dierker" <cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Adam Peake" <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:53 PM





On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Eric Dierker <cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net> wrote:






The only error that was made here was the assumption that developed nations were in control and controlling these things.  It is more accurately a closed club of globetrotting elitist carpetbaggers that control these things.

If you participated, you would know how wrong you are.
 





  The right to speak may in some way be tolerated.  But there is no way a right for individuals in the civil society to be heard

Everyone has the same opportunity and each voice is given the same weight.  Now, if what you say makes sense, then perhaps people will give your voice more consideration.

 





or have a vote.

Voting isn't done, decisions are reached by consensus.

 





Even on this list, if Ginger is offended you are cut off. 

Can you give an example of this?

 





Of course at ApNic it is not tolerated to be a non-cadre member.

You know not of which you speak.

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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