[governance] IGC statement REVISION 3.0: consensus call comes

[Lee W McKnight]

Katitza,

It's a long story; beginning in 1865.

But to make it short, once upon a time government ministries and major telcos had the world of comm to themselves & ITU was their hang-out.

The world changed; ITU has been playing catch-up ever since to resume its rightful place. 

 ITU started and hosted WSIS toward that end; and any output like IGF belongs to ITU in their opinion. 

A minor detail is that civil society may be an invited guest but has no place at an ITU table.  

So there's no tension, ITU is a fine organization - they were enlightened enough to get WSIS going. Got it?

Of course someone else may fill in on more current events, but this is what it's about.

Lee


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From: Katitza Rodriguez [katitza at datos-personales.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:51 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: Re: [governance] IGC statement REVISION 3.0: consensus call comes

Greetings:

Can someone explain me the ITU-IGF tension? I do not follow ITU.

Thanks.


On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Yehuda Katz wrote:

> My constructive dissection:
>
>> None of these suggestions would fundamentally alter the IGF as an
>> institution;
> for example, we are content that it remain formally convened by the UN
> Secretary General, with an independent budget and a Secretariat
> under contract
> with the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs
> (UNDESA).  We
> do not see any benefit to the IGF in moving underneath a different
> UN body.
>
> I take it that: "... We do not see any benefit to the IGF in moving
> underneath
> a different UN body. ..." addresses the ITU's position.
> Myself, I see no insult in addressing the ITU's position more
> directly. (Spit
> it out)
>
> Add something like this: And it is genraly felt that if the IGF is
> to be
> subsumed by the ITU, then IGC members would prefer the IGF remain
> independent
> of the UN umbrella.
>
> I am suggesting to leave open 'The-Thought' of an Independent IGF
> for serval
> reasons,
> 1. There may be Other UN Branches (Other than the ITU) that want to
> hose the
> IGF
> 2. It may be that the IGF can be Independent and 'First among
> Equals' (among
> all the UN Branches) in respect to Internet Policy, underwritten by
> the MDG and
> WSIS Declarations.
> 3. if the IGF is in fact slated to conclude, the statement
> establishes the
> IGC's commitment to the IGF's ongoing Independence.
> ...
> Don't be Shy, the Chair at the ITU certainly is not. Give them (Dese
> & Markus)
> the fuel to fight.
> I don't feel you'll insult anyone by being Frank & Direct, in fact
> now is the
> time to do just that, the delicate 'Modalities' as Bertrand de La
> Chapelle puts
> it can come later.
>
> Else where in your statement, you should add something a-kin too
> "Piercing the
> corporate Veil", that is make reference to the 'Invisibility' of the
> UN
> Umbrella Insider negotiations (UN inside modalities) regarding the
> determination of the IGF's composition, that should be made real-
> time and
> transparent to All.
>
> I use the 'Piercing the corporate Veil' analogy because I feel They
> (the
> UNSG/UNDESA/ITU/IGF Chairs) have broken their contract with US, in
> regards to
> Transparency of the final negotiations. Last Year's transactions/
> actions were
> evidence of the fact.
> ---
>
> * Piercing the corporate Veil
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piercing_the_corporate_veil
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