[governance] WG: Concern for the future of civil society re IGF

[Parminder]

Wolfgang

It is just not that as a new co-chair Jeremy wants to deliver something. 
We always make a statement post IGF at feb meeting and what he is trying 
he must try as a co-chair. We are already slipping in making statements 
when needed, and this is because there is a certain amount of 
disengagement by many members who were earlier active in developing 
statements.

Jeremy never said there *was* rough consensus. He only proposed a rough 
consensus. Some members were of the view that there should be para by 
para discussions. It is for us to do it. The initial draft - always 
necessary if things have to roll - is out there. There is nothing 
co-chairs can do to trigger para by para discussion. we have more than 
three weeks to the open consultation - plenty of time, so lets work on it.

I do however agree with you to work towards longer term vision document, 
and perhaps meetings around this process. But for the present lets try 
to devleop this statement, and also reflect the situation of civil 
society in IG arena, specifically IGC, and what can we do to get it more 
active for the very important task that it has.

Will like to hear your comments on this. Parminder


Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
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> Hi all
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> McTim is right, there is no "rough consensus". 
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> I did not jump into the discussion because I am very busy these days with some other activities, however I follow the debate and would warn to move forward too fast. 
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> There is a need for a more fundamental clarification of the whole issue and a more strategic re-orientation of the IGC and the role of civil society in Internet Governance policy development in the coming years. This is part of a broader package of post MAG/IGF, post JPA/ICANN and post GAID/UN. What is the role of the IGC in all these processes (including the forthcoming ITU pushed WSIS Forum in May 2010 and the ITU Plenipotentiary Conference in October 2010). And what the IGC is doing in other process where Internet Governance becomes an issue (ACTA is just one example)? And how the IGC positioned itself to new processes in the UN General Assembly (with regard to Internet security and governance, pushed by the government of Russia in the 2nd committee)? And what we are doing in cases like Google vs. China? 
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> Before we make hasty statements on the future of the IGF, probably we should start to discuss a more strategic vision paper on "Civil Society and Internet Governance 2015". If we have something like this until the IGF in Vilnjus this would be great. We could have an extra one day pre-conference of the IGC to invite also other stakeholders and we could organize one or two workshops around this strategic re-orientation within the IGF 2010 programme.  
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> Jeremy, I understand that as a new co-chair you want to "deliver" something, but sometimes it is better for a chair just to enable the members of the group to exchange their views, to stimulare their thinking and to moderate a bottom up opinion building process. Strong leadership includes also the capacity to listen, to ask questions (not to give quick answers) and to steer the process from behind, where needed. 
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> Best regards
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> Wolfgang
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