[governance] IGF and GAID

Hakikur Rahman email at hakik.org
Sat Jan 2 15:49:08 EST 2010 

Dear Parminder,

I agree with you cent percent, but wish I could 
have knew those strange reasons that you have 
mentioned. Not only UNDP, but seems majority of 
development partners are no more interested in 
ICTD. For many years, it has become stalled 
somewhere, when the field was really going to 
launch in many lagging nations. Hope GAID, as it 
has been expected could come up with something in this aspect.

Best regards,
Hakikur

At 06:48 02-01-2010, Parminder wrote:


>Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote:
>>Dear Parminder
>>
>>As usually your message clearifies the debate ; therefore all my thanks.
>>
>> > concrete suggestion for IGF reform, which 
>> may be taken up when the resolution/
>> > discussion on IGF continuation finally comes up at the UN general
>> > assembly or at the CSTD (there is a confusion at this stage how the
>> > process will go forward).
>>
>>Isn't there another confusing situation with 
>>GAID as far as IG is dealing with Developing Countriers issues are concerned ?
>>If this is the opinion of a majority among us, 
>>our relation with -and/or position on- GAID should be laid down accordingly.
>Dear Jean-Louis,
>
>Development has never been a serious political 
>issue at WSIS, and has been even less so 
>post-WSIS. It is for this reason that the levels 
>of interest of major actors and therefore the 
>trajectories of the IGF and GAID have been very 
>different. (It is a different manner that the 
>subject of development is treated as a red 
>herring with such regularity, and often 
>deviousness, in the IGF that it would make a very interesting study/ story.)
>
>IG is very political because it concerns the 
>governance, and thus the possibilities of 
>shaping, of the Internet. Development in 
>post-WSIS structures has been seen in largely in 
>the normal 'charity view' of development, plus 
>as new possibilities of political alliances for 
>transnational businesses to expand their markets 
>in developing countries. The fact is that, at 
>present, no major actor of any significant power 
>has really much interest in ICTD at the global 
>level. (UNDP for some strange reasons has mostly withdrawn from this area.)
>
>So while IGF seems to be headed towards even 
>keener political contests, GAID, post-Sarbuland, 
>may be headed towards getting folded up into a 
>regular UN department, doing mundane work (thats 
>what I fear). The way GAID was run as a new age 
>network had many huge problems - and we kept 
>pointed them out at all GAID meetings - but it 
>will be a mistake to forgo  its open new-age 
>network structure for a bureaucratic UN 
>department. What we need instead is a set of 
>more focussed and clearer objectives and work 
>plans, and a better network structure focussed 
>on public interest actors, chiefly those involved with development issues.
>
>Parminder
>
>>
>> > many among us are focusing on just one thing - the
>> > danger that ITU may take over the IGF
>>
>>Right. That is just another point of concern 
>>for me. not only because I was working in the 
>>(far) past with this Un Agency. I do think that 
>>IG needs a strong framework as to be able to 
>>apply in any country. Per se ITU isn't 
>>qualified for "governance" matters, but it 
>>happens to be an intergovernmental body that 
>>has a world-wide competence and standardization 
>>authority in the ICT/telecom domain, whose 
>>circuitry the Internet relies on. That's why I 
>>wonder if CS shouldn't rather put its efforts 
>>to gain both its place and respect inside this 
>>agency. The IGC should also remember that a 
>>large part of the CS orgs committed in the WSIS 
>>follow-up -especially those working in or with 
>>DCs- are struggling for CS being given a plain "ITU member" status.
>>
>> > there could also be new
>> > options. Thematic working groups, inter-sessional programs, some
>> > possibilities of clear advisory outcomes etc may be some things we have
>> > earlier alluded to.
>>
>>Among these thematic working groups one should 
>>deal with some issues related to technical 
>>matters such as critical Internet resources, 
>>network architecture, network neutrality, etc
>>
>>With my best wishes for a happy and fruitful New Year
>>Jean-Louis Fullsack
>>
>>
>>
>> > Message du 31/12/09 10:20
>> > De : "Parminder"
>> > A : <mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org>governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> > Copie à :
>> > Objet : Re: [governance] Online survey on reform of the IGF
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi All
>> >
>> > While the survey may or may not provide useful inputs for IGC's position
>> > on IGF reform, we should in any case discuss the issue here on the list
>> > so that the coordinators can attempt a consensus position.
>> >
>> > I do think that, in the formal consultation process at Sharm, IGC failed
>> > to provide a comprehensive set of suggestions, even the ones which we
>> > have often discussed in past and adopted by consensus. We may still have
>> > a chance of putting our views forward, now through the channel of
>> > government reps that may be on the lookout for possible good concrete
>> > suggestion for IGF reform, which may be taken up when the resolution/
>> > discussion on IGF continuation finally comes up at the UN general
>> > assembly or at the CSTD (there is a confusion at this stage how the
>> > process will go forward).
>> >
>> > While seeking to trigger a discussion on this subject after Sharm I had
>> > pointed to fact that many among us are focusing on just one thing - the
>> > danger that ITU may take over the IGF, (or even that the IGF may be
>> > closed down), and consequently not engaging as much as we should to
>> > propose real improvements in the IGF. Apparently, the view is that if we
>> > breathe but one word on possible improvements, it may be taken as
>> > statement of failure of the IGF and be used by those keen on shutting
>> > down the IGF, or seeking an ITU take over of it.
>> >
>> > One proof that these fears are hugely exaggerated, and even
>> > diversionary, can be found in the fact that recently a UN general
>> > assembly resolution for more stable public/ UN funding for the IGF
>> > (which some groups tend to equate with possible ITU takeover) was shot
>> > down, and another one calling for more voluntary contributions to the
>> > trust fund (status quoist) was adopted. One can clearly see here who
>> > calls the shots and which way the wind is blowing.
>> >
>> > So lets relax our exaggerated caution, and boldly seek IGF reform of the
>> > kind we have asked for over the years, while there could also be new
>> > options. Thematic working groups, inter-sessional programs, some
>> > possibilities of clear advisory outcomes etc may be some things we have
>> > earlier alluded to. I personally think that we should also seek a
>> > clearer role for the MAG, and more agenda setting power for it,
>> > including of developing recommendations and advices as per the IGF
>> > mandate based on the proceedings of the IGF and other WGs etc. There
>> > could be other possibilities, but we need to discuss them, and maybe
>> > speak out at Feb meeting (even if thats not the agenda) to catch the ear
>> > of some gov reps, and also pass our views on directly to interested gov
>> > reps.
>> >
>> > Have a great last day of 2009, and wake up to a hopeful and fruitful 2010!
>> >
>> > Parminder
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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