[governance] FW: [] ICANN President: $750,000+$195,000 bonus
Carlos A. Afonso
ca at cafonso.ca
Tue Feb 16 17:52:58 EST 2010
Thanks, compa.
--c.a.
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On 16/02/2010, at 19:52, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
<isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Carlos
>
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> In a sense I agree that $ 250,000 is a very large sum, but from a
> different point of view, it also happens to be a sum that is not
> huge. Also, it is a good idea to create a fund to increase
> participation or enable good programs.
>
> Please take a look at my response today to Avri Doria. It covers all
> the point you have mentioned.
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>
> wrote:
> With all due respect, Muthusamy, we are talking about US dollars here,
> not rupees or yen or... the whole amount is extremely high --
> remember,
> ICANN is a non-profit organization, not a for-profit corporation!! And
> 250K US dollars has a tremendous value for,eg, ICANN creating a more
> decent fund to help increase Southern participation, etc etc.
>
> Like many for-profit corporations, Mr Beckstrom earns nearly two times
> as much as his closest aides (Mr Brent, Mr Jeffrey, and Mr Pritz), who
> in their turn earn two times as much as the chief financial officer
> (Mr
> Wilson).
>
> Now I understand why Mr Beckstrom always looks so happy :)
>
> --c.a.
>
> Avri Doria wrote:
> > On 14 Feb 2010, at 10:47, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> >
> >> In the case of the CEO's compensation for the year, I wouldn't
> worry about a $ 250,000 difference. It isn't much.
> >
> > It could help to fund at least one application by some worthy
> applicant from a developing region maybe even seed money for a
> Foundation to help applicants from developing regions. Lots of
> things could be done with that 250K that you think is not so much.
> Maybe he will donate it to some good cause since it is not so much.
> >
> >> And not a significant difference to merit an embarrassing
> discussion in a public list or in an open forum.
> >
> > To whom is this discussion embarrassing? You, me? I am not
> embarrassed. If we don't talk about here, then where? If one sees
> excess, it needs to be pointed out.
> >
> >> There are good natured people with the required qualification
> who would opt to work at low compensation levels, but it is not
> always necessary for all non-profit corporations to take advantage
> of the goodness of such people.
> >
> > I disagree. We should find the people who are dedicated, know the
> field and are willing to take a reasonable wage. I accept the need
> to pay them a livable wage for LA, Brussels or even Palo Alto, and I
> accept that they have higher then normal expenses while doing their
> job - I even accept that they travel business class since that is
> the only way to travel and work at the same time. I do not accept
> that they need to be paid according to the standards of profit
> making industry or need TV studios in the Palo Alto office.
> >
> >> Our energies could instead be directed towards finding ways of
> enhancing ICANN's revenues in areas where it is due, where it does
> not become a burden for the user. That would be several times more
> rewarding than saving a few thousand dollars on Executive
> Compensation.
> >
> > It is a symbolic issue. One of the problem i see in IANN is that
> it persists in seeing itself through the lens of a profit making
> corporation. This excuses a whole lot of problems.
> >
> > And do not think that there is any will in ICANN for unburdening
> the poor user (the ICANN tax on domain names is not after all, the
> real burden on the user). E.g. there have been several calls over
> the years from setting up a foundation to help applicants who have
> less then LA style 'bundles of bucks' in order to make applications
> - and we have seen no movement in this area. Finding ways to help
> ICANN bring in more money will only result in higher wages for a
> greater number of employees (don't get me wrong jobs funding is a
> good thing - i am happy lots of people have work in ICANN). If a
> foundation were set up to channel the some of the bounty, including
> the windfall we will see from gTLD auctions, into a foundation
> geared toward development and especially developing a DNS industry
> in developing regions, instead of ploughing the money into excessive
> salaries, then ICANN would have a better reputation in the world and
> more importantly would be doing the right thing.
> >
> > I am not embarrassed to say such things.
> >
> > a.
> >
> >
> >
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