[governance] Re: Remote Participation Instructions for the MAG

Wed Feb 10 07:38:09 EST 2010

The video recordings are at page http://media.lscube.org/IGF/2010/Feb_09

The Remote Participation Chat record is at page
http://www.igfremote.info/RP/?altcast_code=e02867f44e

Complete text of the Open Consultations is at page
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2010/transcripts/IGF.9.Feb.09.openconsultations.txt

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <
isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:

> The MAG meeting is in progress today and will continue tomorrow, but MAG
> meetings are closed.
>
> Yesterday's Open consultation meeting can be replayed from page
> http://www.igfremote.info/RP/?altcast_code=e02867f44e
>
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> http://www.isocmadras.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Deirdre Williams <
> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think no one noticed that we had a badly worded subject line - I only
>> saw it this morning after I read your message. The remote participation was
>> yesterday for the Open Consultation. It was far from perfect but it was
>> available (mostly - the morning was better) - and I must say that the
>> captioning was posted very quickly afterwards so that one could fill in the
>> gaps.
>> Deirdre
>>
>>
>> On 10 February 2010 06:40, CW Mail <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, that does not work. There is no video atall. The video link leads
>>> to an advertisement from VideoLAN. The VCL mediaplayer download offered does
>>> not improve matters.
>>> The Chat is Read Only.
>>>
>>> Who is <sdkaaa>?
>>>
>>> How did Chennai post their interesting question? I notice that nobody
>>> else has found out how to enter meaningful text into the Chat.
>>>
>>>  Regards, CW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09 Feb 2010, at 15:18, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>>>
>>> Ginger,
>>>
>>> These comments are comments are not posted for discussion in today's
>>> meetings. Think of this discussion as a sideline discussion during the
>>> review process, to take further shape as a concrete proposal. Yes, we will
>>> send this to the Secretariat as a suggestion.
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>> http://www.isocmadras.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Good point, Shiva, and one many have made at the OC this morning. We
>>>> are now past the time for this agenda point, and are moving on to agenda. We
>>>> are not looking for a solution for today, but for participation in a
>>>> process. I suggest that you send this comment directly to the IGF
>>>> secretariat, and I know the RPWG will take it under consideration.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Ginger
>>>>
>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hello Ginger
>>>>
>>>>  Oliver and I had a chat on this topic and I have had some exchanges on
>>>> twitter with Marilla.
>>>>
>>>>  Our concern is not to find a temporary solution to participate in the
>>>> meeting today, it is a general concern, it is about the technical resources
>>>> required for remote participation, by IGF standards
>>>>
>>>>  IGF is *THE* Internet forum, a place where the who is who of Internet
>>>> and all the technical expertise converges and the infrastructure available
>>>> must be uncompromising. The present standards are a generation behind, there
>>>> is no room for contention.
>>>>
>>>>  It is all run by volunteers, yes, but this is not a comment about
>>>> people, it is a comment about the resources to be committed, about the
>>>> attention that needs to be paid. IGF needs to consult professionals months
>>>> in advance to determine the bandwidth and infrastructure requirements,
>>>> arrange to send experts to the locations days in advance to flawlessly set
>>>> up the remote participation infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>>  My suggestion here is that administratively the IGF Secretariat could
>>>> call for advise from the technical community
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>>> http://www.isocmadras.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Bernard Sadaka <sdkaaa at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Olivier,
>>>>> Please find bellow all the ways you could participate in the current
>>>>> IGF OC:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Remote participation including coveritlive, twitter and
>>>>>    video/audio: http://www.igfremote.info/RP/
>>>>>    - Remote participation including coveritlive, twitter and audio
>>>>>    only: http://www.igfremote.info/RP/audioonly.php
>>>>>    - Remote participation from your mobile including coveritlive,
>>>>>    twitter and no audio or video: http://www.igfremote.info/mRP/
>>>>>    - Remote participation via Webex: http://bit.ly/bvJQSY
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if i can help you in any other way...
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bernard
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bernard SADAKA
>>>>> Mobile: +961 3 172377
>>>>> Email : sdkaaa at gmail.com
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> BsE in Computer and Communication Engineer
>>>>> Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <
>>>>> ocl at gih.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hello Bernard,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you, and thanks to all of the others (Patrik Fältström, for
>>>>>> example), who have tried to have some kind of remote participation set-up.
>>>>>> This is not meant as a criticism of anyone, just a provocative remark to get
>>>>>> some people to open their eyes, rather than bathing each other in
>>>>>> congratulatory, back-patting, empty speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The trouble is that I've never managed to get the video/audio feed to
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> For one, they don't work with Firefox.
>>>>>> And then it appears that there's not enough bandwidth somewhere along
>>>>>> the line...
>>>>>> I can get Webex, Skype, Marratech, Adobe Meeting, and Jabber to work
>>>>>> perfectly, even with 2-way video, and yet, remote participation at this
>>>>>> meeting = nil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever, remote participation, for me, currently rates at 0/10. ie.
>>>>>> non existent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any remote participation system should be designed for 100s of remote
>>>>>> participants, and should not fail when more than 10 people connect
>>>>>> simultaneously...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question: with the whole point of the IGF being multi-stakeholder
>>>>>> public participation, why is this subject not being dealt with in a
>>>>>> professional way?
>>>>>> The current arrangement is very poor. Sorry, I mean: dreadful. It
>>>>>> makes the whole IGF process a complete joke.
>>>>>> Perhaps Dr. Touré was right when he used the term "waste of time".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 08/02/2010 22:00, Bernard Sadaka a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>> You could also use http://www.igfremote.info/RP/
>>>>>> or http://www.igfremote.info/mRP/ from a mobile phone (you won't have
>>>>>> webcast though here :) )
>>>>>> All the Best.
>>>>>> Bernard.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bernard SADAKA
>>>>>> Mobile: +961 3 172377
>>>>>> Email : sdkaaa at gmail.com
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> BsE in Computer and Communication Engineer
>>>>>> Lebanon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <
>>>>>> isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bernard sdkaaa of Lebanon has gathered this info that would make it
>>>>>>> easy to participate remotely in the meeting tomorrow:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Live Blog: IGF February 2010 Open Consultations
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday February 9, 2010
>>>>>>> Time: 09:30 CET
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to view the event, simply click here. Or alternatively,
>>>>>>> copy-paste this link in your browser:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.igfremote.info/RP/?altcast_code=e02867f44e
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No passwords necessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Questions to sharmstocktaking at intgovforum.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>>>>>> http://www.isocmadras.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhDhttp://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>>>>>>
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