[governance] How to Prevent Cyber War

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Tue Feb 2 04:28:38 EST 2010


Imran,

your proposal is filled with good intentions, but would only work if all 
countries around the world ensured freedom of speech, Article 20 of the 
Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights

Alas this is not so. Are you willing to put your freedom of speech at risk?

1. Your proposed system mentions utilisation of the Internet "with bad 
intentions" opens the door to interpretation of what "bad intentions" 
are. Do I have "bad intention" when I reply to your email? Do you have 
"bad intention" when you support the proposal below? Neither you nor I 
know, and I certainly would not leave it to a country's political system 
to tell me or you that we have "bad intentions".

2. The ITU's recommendations are a straw-man. They piggy-back on popular 
criticism of the Internet, and have no underlying rationale whatsoever. 
Country level treaties about Cyber attacks are as useless as the paper 
they would be printed on because for a concerted Cyber attack, you need 
one computer - and the attacker, if we were good enough at programming, 
could be you or me. Treaty or no treaty, we could inflict as much damage 
as anyone else out there.

I am yet to read an Internet-related proposal from the ITU that makes 
sense and that shows they understand how modern telecommunications work. 
It is sad, really, since I have worked on several X-series standards in 
the late 80s/early 90s (red book, blue book, yellow book etc.) and there 
were a lot of very talented people within its ranks (and it was called 
CCITT) - all retired now.

Warm regards,

Olivier

-- 
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
http://www.gih.com/ocl.html



Le 02/02/2010 10:01, Imran Ahmed Shah a écrit :
>
> Dear Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>
> Your comments are very important to me because of hidden criticism in it.
>
> I would like to mention only little points. if the traffic and 
> accessibility of the internet is traceable by monitoring and 
> controlled with existing policies why still everyone is facing spam 
> and hacking attacks? Why cyber attacks happens? How the viruses are 
> being spread globally. Can you assure that every one sitting behind a 
> domain name and accessing Internet has only good intentions and is 
> following good ethics.
>
> My suggestion is to create a trustable internet highway where everyone 
> can ensure that space is not going to be utilized with any bad 
> intentions. You can only guarantee to others if you can assure a 
> confidence level to yourself. Otherwise your enemies can use your own 
> space to attack just to pull you in the Cyber War.
>
> Localized Global Internet is not a contradiction of two terms but it 
> mean is the new IDN Layer of Internet with Domain Names of Local 
> Languages and are accessible on global level.
>
> Imran
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com>
> *To:* governance at lists.cpsr.org; Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com>; Jeremy Malcolm 
> <jeremy at ciroap.org>; Imran ICANNians.com <imran at icannians.com>
> *Sent:* Tue, 2 February, 2010 13:07:07
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] How to Prevent Cyber War
>
> Hello
>
> ( I will make more comments after I find the text of this speech at 
> Davos. But for now, there are a few comments inline.)
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:ias_pk at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     *How to Prevent Cyber War*
>
>     Experts think that the warning from Secretary General of UN
>     communications and technology agency International
>     Telecommunications Union, Mr Hamadoun Toure at World Economic
>     Forum can prevent Cyber War between different nations. He proposed
>     a treaty in which countries would engage not to make the first
>     cyber strike against another nation.
>
> No country that indulges in Cyber War declares a war and wages it in a 
> manner akin to how it happens in the real world. Cyber attacks are 
> covert attacks, not transparent attacks.
>
>     Google claims regarding attacks from China has become a major
>     issue and it was a major talking point in Davos. Hamadoun Toure
>     said that the risk of a cyber conflict between two nations grows
>     every year.
>
>     Now it is need of the time to sign up treaty for all countries and
>     first of all from China. But who will define that who is right and
>     who is wrong? Today anyone can obtain any kind of domain name and
>     can host it anywhere that may be accessible from any other corner
>     of the world.
>
> The subtle message of the Cyber Treaty proposal is to bring in a 
> system whereby all Internet traffic would be traced back to the user.
>
>     Similarly Internet is accessible to every one.
>
>
> But this would actually take shape to make the Internet inaccessible 
> to the citizens of control regimes.
>
>     China has decline the google claim that they are not involved in
>     such kind of attack on Google. Well, but China has to take care
>     about the domain registrations with .cn ccTLD and all Data Centers
>     of the country.
>
>     China and Google is the first case but /I would like to recommend
>     to Government Authorities, ICT Policy makers/implementers, and
>     Stakeholders of each country/ _to STOP issuance of new domain
>     names (registrations) with their ccTLD name space and
>     hosting-services from their data-centers to non-citizens
>     immediately. Second step is to re-evaluate the existing domain
>     names & hosting and formulate a methodology to constantly
>     monitoring and record the internet traffic to and from existing
>     ccTLD domain names (hosted inland)._
>
>
> Brilliant. Inventive. Genius. These proposals make ccTLD space 
> geographically confined. And would make Internet almost 
> indistinguishable from Telephones.
>
>     These actions will prevent misuse of ccTLD name space and protect
>     the nations pulling into the cyber war. If they found any misuse
>     or moderate traffic from a domain, immediately the information has
>     to be passed to the UN communications and technology agency.
>
>     These steps may be very helpful to create confidence between
>     nations and will keep building up the trust on One World, One
>     Internet, Everyone Connected.
>
>
> These steps would be very helpful to shatter the concept of One World, 
> One Internet and ensure that not everyone is connected.
>
>     The trust between nations is very much necessary for neutrality
>     and openness of the Internet
>
> Neutrality and Openness would be gone.
>
>     and especially for the future Layers of new Localized Global Layer
>     of the Linguistic Internet.
>
> Localized Global ???  This Oxymoron shows.
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>
>     [Imran Ahmed Shah]
>
>     Advisor to
>
>       Urdu Internet Council
>
>     Group Leader of
>
>       WebSphere User Group of Pakistan
>
>       Pakistan Tivoli User Group
>
>       Pakisan Rational User Group
>
>     ICANNian since Oct-2009
>
>
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