[governance] Re: Separate statement on themes for Vilnius

[Lee W McKnight]

Network Neutrality - Ensuring an Open Internet 

works for me

I would humbly disagree with Ian however re architecture which can be part of solution, also at content/apps layers, even if insufficient without also policy.

Anyway, we're talking main theme which must be general enough to accomodate multiple interpretations.
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From: Ian Peter [ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:24 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Separate statement on themes for Vilnius

I have similar questions to Avri.

Open architecture in an Internet environment or its predecessors has a
specific meaning going back to 1972 when it was first introduced as a
concept. It has very little to do with network neutrality or content at all
unless you stretch the meaning to the point where it is ridiculous. It is a
concept to do with creating a backbone for technical interoperability
between disparate systems.

Many of the problems that network neutrality seeks to address are simply not
architectural or technical. A pressing one is the premium content charge,
where carriers or mobile companies want to demand payments from content
providers to get a quicker or more favourable exposure.(preferred search
engine, social networking site etc). That's really not architectural at all
- its a particular pattern of commercial behaviour that many of believe
should be avoided because it distorts open access and the nature of the
Internet.

I am very happy with Network Neutrality - Ensuring an Open Internet. I can
understand why people would like to make it an architectural argument - but
I am not convinced that it accurate or likely to achieve a good result.


> From: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
> Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:33:16 +0800
> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Yehuda Katz <yehudakatz at mailinator.com>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Separate statement on themes for Vilnius
>
> On 01/02/2010, at 9:13 PM, Yehuda Katz wrote:
>
>>> "Right to Internet Development", which would be the right to develop
>>> Internet
>>> policy and standards in a bottom up, open, documented and transparent
>>> fashion,
>>> independent from commercial and governmental interests.
>>>
>>> This combines Rights and a Development Agenda together in once concept.
>>
>> I second Michael Gurstein's motion.
>>
>> Jeremy, could we please Poll this for adoption.
>
> It could be a little premature for that.  There seems to be more momentum
> around "Network Neutrality - Ensuring an Open Internet Architecture".  But
> discussion is still open on both ideas.
>
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