[governance] Re: Draft IGC statement on Wikileaks

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Me too! :)

--c.a.

On 12/12/2010 03:52 AM, Ian Peter wrote:
> Must say I am hugely more attracted to Parminders wording than the longer
> text under discussion from Jeremy.
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> From: parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
> Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:15:55 +0530
> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Draft IGC statement on Wikileaks
> 
> Hi Jeremy
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> I and my organization will support the statement. We need to use the
> Wikileak affair to jolt ourselves out of complacency, and the vain
> techno-fascinated hope that the myriad global internet issues will resolve
> by themselves, which is what has landed us in the jungle law mess (apologies
> to the feelings of Ian about nature, jungles and human beings :)) where
> power is exercised in illegal means used in wikileaks affair, and not, to
> the extent it is required to be used, in a sound politically legitimate
> manner. 
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> The statement is well written. Jeremy, can you post the text as it stands on
> the list. Some of these online means may be more efficient, and we shd use
> them by and by, but I understand that some people here still, by habit,
> would like to see the texts of proposed statements in this elist. And also
> an open discussion, suggestions for changes etc is very useful (the process
> of public reasoning) as against private changes to the texts in an online
> space. (We need to use a mix of two, but that for later).
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> While I will like the full statement to be used, it is also possible that
> David uses a smaller version. Something like (i am sure the following could
> be improved a lot)
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>> "The recent WikiLeaks affairs have starkly brought out how global Internet
>> cannot, and should not, be governed through illegitimate use of political and
>> commercial power. There are two clear problems with this approach of using
>> backroom governance tactics. One, they is always likely to be abused, as in
>> our view, they got hugely abused in the Wikileaks case. Second, in possible
>> cases where it may legitimately be required to employ some urgent global
>> governance responses to real problems or threats (or perhaps even
>> opportunities), which cannot completely be assumed away, backroom levels of
>> power based on raw political and commerical might, as employed by some
>> governments and their corporate cronies in the present case, are not available
>> to less powerful political players or countries. This situation bespeaks a
>> democratic deficit and a need for globally democratic principles and
>> institutional frameworks in the area of Internet governance, which is the
>> urgent challenge that the proposed process of enhanced cooperation should
>> address itself to. "
> parminder
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> Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
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>> On 11/12/2010, at 5:13 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
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>>> Those who haven't commented on the Wikileaks statement yet but plan to,
>>> please visit http://igf-online.net/digress.it/ latest today or tomorrow.
>>>  David Allen is copying some materials to take to the Enhanced Cooperation
>>> consultation and will need this ready by Monday morning.
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>> Check back again now and you'll see revision marks for the changes I've made
>> in response to the comments so far.  Of course, some of the comments are
>> mutually contradictory so I haven't been able to incorporate all of them.
>>  Final comments can be made within the next 24 hours.  Because we won't
>> however have time for a formal consensus call on this before David needs it, I
>> feel that we cannot call it a consensus statement, so I propose just putting
>> my own name to it as IGC co-coordinator.
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