[governance] Wikileaks - ISOC

Deirdre Williams williams.deirdre at gmail.com
Thu Dec 9 09:32:16 EST 2010


<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11945558>In light of this
discussion did anyone notice this report?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11945558
 <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11945558>I thought it was
particularly interesting in our world of smoke and mirrors and dust in the
air how effectively sleight of hand had directed all attention away from the
fact that somewhere at the base of the issue the US attempts to keep
information secret had failed. The US leaked before Wikileaks leaked.
Deirdre

On 9 December 2010 10:17, Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu> wrote:

> Milton wrote a nice piece for the IGP blog on the Wikileaks issue....check
> out the newslettter we sent around yesterday. The Wikileaks thing from an
> IGC perspective is not about 'supporting' WikiLeaks,  but about supporting
> open, transparent, governance of...critical Internet resources or however we
> phrase it for a broader audience to significantly raise the profile of IGC.
>
> So yeah I agree timing is good to play off Wikileaks to highlight our
> broader concerns, highlighted by Wikileaks and the CSTD shenanigans.
>
> Lee
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> On Behalf Of Ian Peter [ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
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> To: Jeremy Malcolm; governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] Wikileaks - ISOC
>
> >Do we want to say "we support Wikileaks" or do we want to say "we
> disapprove of the (lack of) process that has been followed in dealing with
> Wikileaks, and we think that a set of principles should be >democratically
> developed to guide public and private responses in future similar
> circumstances"?  Whilst I personally support Wikileaks, I think that the
> latter approach is more within the IGC's area of >core competence, and would
> also distinguish our statement better from those of free speech groups et
> al.
>
> Along the lines of the latter I think – we can say recent events such as
> those concerning Wikileaks highlight the need for....
>
> While arguing for the development of specific processes, we can also be
> critical of the sorts of actions that have been taken in the absence of such
> guidelines and the futility and ineffectiveness of  un co-ordinated
> approaches taking place in the absence of established legal protocols.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 16:00:05 +0800
> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Wikileaks - ISOC
>
> On 09/12/2010, at 2:53 PM, Ian Peter wrote:
>
> So far we have seen everydns, mastercard, amazon and paypal cave in to
> political pressure, although there is no legal action against wikileaks, let
> alone a successful one. On the other hand, ISOC (and presumably PIR) and
> Facebook of all bedfellows have stood firmly on the side of a free Internet.
>
> and Twitter.
>
> I think an IGC statement on this issue would be useful!
>
> Do we want to say "we support Wikileaks" or do we want to say "we
> disapprove of the (lack of) process that has been followed in dealing with
> Wikileaks, and we think that a set of principles should be democratically
> developed to guide public and private responses in future similar
> circumstances"?  Whilst I personally support Wikileaks, I think that the
> latter approach is more within the IGC's area of core competence, and would
> also distinguish our statement better from those of free speech groups et
> al.
>
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